The Fab 4 vs. Modern MW Stars

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    The MW divisions is one of my favorites of all time.
    And the modern MW division is one of my favorite eras for the weight class. There seems to be endless talent and newcomers in the division.

    But nobody can forget about the Fab 4, one of the greatest MW forces of all time.
    What would happen if we matched the Fab 4 with the modern MW stars?

    Tommy Hearns vs. Jermell Charlo
    Roberto Duran vs. Jarret Hurd
    Marvin Hagler vs. Canelo Alvarez
    Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Gennady Golovkin
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The Hearns of the Schuler fight would have beaten Charlo. Duran would be a handful for any middle today but his short arms could hamper him a bit. GGG couldn`t cut the ring off on Canelo and neither would Hagler but I see Alvarez landed more rights against Marvin than he did vs GGG.
    I feel GGG beats Leonard and Raay will gas about the same time that he did vs Hagler except this time he will face tHe relentless pressure and constant jab of GGG.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    I've always thought that an aggressive Hagler might be GGG's kryptonite. The only thing that bugs me is the size difference ... modern MW's are in the 170's on fight night which probably adds up to a 10lb weight advantage. Golovkin with a 10lb weight advantage would be stiff for anybody. I think Leonard might be next hardest for GGG, and I'm pretty confident he beats a MW Duran and Hearns.

    Canelo actually really impressed me in his fight with Golovkin.

    In his case I think his hardest test would be Hearns. Hearns has the boxing ability and massive firepower to really torch him up, whereas Canelo might not be able to crack Hearns' chin in return. He might have an easier time against Hagler than Golovkin tbh. His stick and move plan could work better against Hagler.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I disagree. I think the opposite. GGG is Haglers kryptonite.
    Hagler is a come forward go to war fighter bringing less firepower to the fight. It would spell disaster for him imo.

    I think GGG's kryptonite would be FMM.
     
  5. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like the 80's middleweights. Hearns beats Charlo I think by decision. Duran may lose to Hurd. Leonard likely beats Golovkin by decision. Hagler beats Canelo.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Charlo and Hurd fight at 154.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    The underlined is grossly incorrect Rez, a myth often brought on as a result of the Hearns war as well as the Mugabi and SRL fights when he was aging.

    At his best Hagler was a consumate boxer/puncher with excellent versatility, a great jab and good lateral movement. He was an excellent counter puncher who patiently took his opponents apart at his peak whilst still keeping a great deal of pressure on.

    Sure he could brawl when he had to or wanted to but that was not his preferred style. Go and watch his bouts against Scypion and Sibson where he is at the top of his game.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I would say your description is more complete and I agree with it.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG would put on the "Old version" of SRL, what Hagler played around and didn't try to do. SRL going into a GGG fight with a repaired eye is another negative.
     
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  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on!

    I often view the Sibson bout as the one in which he most demonstrated his wide array of skills. And, all conducted at a pace we rarely see in today's Middleweight bouts.

    In Leonard's words, as he watched: "Hagler's fighting a perfect fight."


    The Scypion bout was fought at an even more furious pace and Hagler was just a machine, whose armory was just to complete and strong for his opponent.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    I think these two bouts may have been his pinnacle.
     
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  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd agree that they were. I think it would be fair to suggest that Hagler was perhaps tipping over to the farther side of his peak after these bouts (he'd recently recovered from injury, prior to the Scypion contest).
     
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  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns
    Duran
    Golovkin
    Hagler
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler was NEVER A come forward destroyer type. Even after he adapted the moniker of "Destruct and Destroy". After the 1st Antefermo fight. Triple G. Would be the perfect VICTIM for Hagler. He'd walk into sharp counter punches, with little head movement and average at best foot speed. Hagler eats him alive... And judging by the way he went into a shell against Canelo, a much lighter puncher than Hagler, he could make Triple G. Quit.
    Triple G. Would have a much BETTER chance against FMM, than any version of Hagler prior to 1985.
     
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  15. Flash24

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    Hearns vs Charlo . Hearns in 6rds against the totally unproven Charlo, same day weigh in.
    Duran in 12rds against another totally unproven fighter whose competition has been below average,,,,,, at best mediocre at its worst, again same day weigh-ins.
    Hagler vs Canelo Hagler by wide dec win, or TKO.
    same day weigh-ins.
    Leonard vs Triple G. Same day weigh in, Leonard by comfortable dec. Triple G. Couldn't figure a way to trap Canelo, he for sure wouldn't be able to to do it against Leonard of the Hagler fight .
    The fights would be much closer in today's era of previous day weigh-ins where a fighter fighting for a Middleweight championship would go into the fight damn near Lt.heavy . But I would still like the skills of the proven ATG'S against the fighters of today's era.
     
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