Let's say RJJ was born and raised in London. How would have it affected his career?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy clearly doesn't fight solely for the money.
     
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    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I think the British fighters would all have had to face Jones had he been British. We know Collins would have been game and Nigel would been up for it. I think Jones being a big name American was part of what intimidated Eubank who was blinded by the lights a bit. That wouldn't have been so much a factor if they had been born on the same soil.

    As for Calzaghe I think his mindset would have been different. Why? Because he would of prob had to go through Roy should he want to become a belt holder. He'd have been a contender in the shadow of a star a bit like Froch was to him after he picked up a few high profile wins.
     
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    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I've also mentioned a number of other fighters in various posts. You've not wanted to discuss any of those. Curious that.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Agreed. There's clearly something else going through his mind as to continuing and I think it's fear. He doesn't know how to do anything else and change is daunting. Especially if you've been doing the exact same thing for your entire life.
     
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    We know that Collins and Benn would have been game.

    Eubank may have been a possibility.

    I don't see how Joe would have had a different mindset though. His objective was to retire undefeated. Also, Joe turned pro in 93. By the time that Joe had started making waves, I think that Roy would have been at LHW just like in real time.
     
  6. Loudon

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    It's the love of competition.

    I think he'll retire next week, but he'll be back soon enough. I'm certain of it.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I hope he does. I'm always saddened to see guys carry on too long and he definitely has. Hopefully Bernard hanging them up despite having a lot more success as a geezer convinces him now's the time.
     
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    He's fighting to pay off debt. He's broke. Do you think if RJJ had $100 million in the bank he'd still be fighting?

    Here's some info from 2016 about RJJ's dire financial situation. He had Russian promoter Hrunov buy out his US debt and then pay off the money by fighting for Hrunov on Russian fight cards:

    "When Roy decided to take Russian citizenship, it became clear that he was facing big tax problems. On September 10 of this year, I flew to the United States, in his hometown of Pensacola, to meet with his lawyer John Wirt. There I signed a letter on his behalf, which guarantees to pay $ 3 million for the debts of Russian citizen Roy Jones, as well as taking care of all of his tax obligations," Hryunov explained to Life Times."

    "And this is not an obligation personally to Roy, namely to its creditors. To date, I have paid $1 million. This is a very serious circumstance. Before anyone spreads any rumors, I have stayed in this commitment. After that, he began to live safely and freely. But before that there were constant reminders from collectors who were searching for additional earnings."
     
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    I'd imagine he most certainly would of met Eubank and Benn at some point. I think if Eddie Hearn had hold of RJJ today, He would make so much money he wouldn't be fighting at the age of 89
     
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    If Roy were from London, his chin would've so bad that he'd be rendered unconious whenever Big Ben tolled.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Yes, he'd still be fighting.
     
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    na i dont think so at all, joe would have done what he has always done until left till last. If jones had miraculously become the wbo mando, cowzaghe go through hell to dump his belt and move to another division AND/OR organisation.
     
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    crumpets wouldve killed his career
     
  14. HerolGee

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    froch wasnt in joes shadow, joe's only connection to froch is him mysteriously vacating when froch became his mando.
     
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