Canelo: "I watched the fight back. I won by 2 rounds"

Yeah, well, maybe they have a good oculist in Colorado as well.

Not to take anything away from Canelo, but Golovkin won the first fight and he’ll need more than just training in mountains to survive the second one.

 

Well, he wasn't exactly watching the fight replay with an unbiased eye. It's hard to fault him for that. It was a very competitive fight that most think GGG won, yet there are areas in which both fighters can improve.

I like that Canelo realizes that he will need to be more active to beat Golovkin convincingly. In the first fight he was somewhat wary of letting his hands go for concern of GGG's vaunted power. Now he knows that he can handle that power to a degree as long as he doesn't allow himself to get hit really flush by G. Alvarez can't rely on counter punching alone to win the rematch. He will have to fight smart, but he also must be willing to initiate the action more than he was the first time around.

 

Everybody says "well no fighter is going to believe he lost" but that's BS. Rare but there have been instances of victorious fighters in their interview saying things like "damn I got lucky, really didn't think I had that one and neither did my coach.." or losers graciously accepting "yeah it was close but he deserved it".

Just because human nature sucks and most people are not class acts doesn't mean we pretend they don't exist or provide an ideal standard to hold everybody up to.

Don't just give people who rationalize extreme bias for themselves a free pass by saying "well that's just what everyone does, always". No. That's what deeply flawed people do. Granted that's most people, but still. Let's call a spade a spade. Let's hold our species and ourselves more accountable.

 

A very solid argument can be made that Canelo won rounds 1-3, and 10-12. Between rounds 4-9 you can make an argument that Canelo won one or two as well.

On the flip side, you can argue GGG swept rounds 4-9, and you can argue that he won a round between rounds 1-3 and 10-12.

In other words this fight could have been anyone's. Anyone who says otherwise is bias imo.

 

@IsaL

I agree with this 100%
I scored it the night of the fight 8-4, then the next day 7-5 GGG. I can see 6-6 or 7-5 Canelo. Its within reason. But 10-2? Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who scored that fight 10-2 either way scored that fight with a built in bias.

 

I honestly wish either of them had won definitively so this endless "I won/he won" rubbish would stop.

 

Better yet, scored a KO.

 

Same as me...

 

People like to focus too much on the 10-2 score from Byrd. I'm very sure she had a bias. My guess is that she was scoring rounds for whoever landed the cleaner punches.

 

Reasonable GGG fans like me though cant let it slide. I just cant. I supported the idea that GGG could ONLY win by T/KO and then we end up with a scorecard like that. It's the reason I still support that idea. I am not saying she was paid off, but there is no way 10-2 is a legit card for either side without some sort of bias. If he card would have been 8-4 or 7-5--well ok--thats within reason given how close some of the rounds were.

There just always seems to be a wide or anomaly card in all of Canelo's big fights that he doesnt get a KO. I made a very detailed post about it awhile back. I wish I could find it.

If I remember correctly, CJ Ross was asked to score Mayweather/Canelo with the commision in the same room to explain her scorecard. She declined and then retired. Would love to see the same with Byrd.

My guess is she had bias for a Canelo win.

 

I agree. If she gave a score like 7-5/8-4 then there would be very little fuss about the scorecards. In all I still think a draw was a good result. At first I felt Canelo won, then I rewatched and felt Golovkin won, and then I scored it again as a draw. Really can come down to what you like. I'd expect a clear decision this time around. Can't see a KO happening mind you unless a dynamite body shot hits the liver's clitoris.

 

What makes you "Very sure" ?

 

Canelo is correct. That’s why the rematch will be easier and more convincing. If G actually fights true Mexican style instead of jabbing a guy while they’re gassed and on the ropes.....

He can better his chances but if he continues to rely on appearing more busy but not more effective, him and the rest of you will continue to paint him out as the monster turned victim.

His performance was garbage. He just had better stamina which isn’t scoring criteria. Effectiveness is. In G’s case, tentative agression getting credit for 300 jabs that didn’t even land.

Regardless we all know what time it is. G will lose the rematch. His performance and excuses of politics aren’t helping him in no way, shape or form.