Groves vs Eubanks.. Official pick em!

I will make a prediction nearer the time.

But I have to comment on this "I'm not a SMW" coming from Jr at every given opportunity.

I believe this is a ready made excuse in case it all goes wrong. Jr has doubts and so does Sr because he has mentioned it a couple of times, Groves is a big SMW who can punch, they are having doubts.

If you're not a SMW then don't join a SMW tournament and then keep saying you're not a SMW. Stay at 160, drop that ridiculous IBO piece of rubbish and force a mandatory spot in a respected governing body, force a fight with a Saunders, GGG or Canelo.

Also if you are over 11 stone 6 I have news for you, YOU ARE A SMW, if Jr weighed 11 stone 7 it still makes him a SMW, it falls in the weight class.

He may well be a small SMW but he still is one right now, so he should stop banging on about it because all it looks like to me is ready made excuses.

This is making me edge towards Groves at this moment in time, I've not heard him making any excuses or saying something like "I struggle to make the weight".

 

Lol I know he didn't have a problem with weight when he won that trash title and won all them winnable fights and the reason why his Evan at the weight is because he ran from golovkin another excuse

 

I’m looking forward to hearing what th Eubanks have to say after groves beats him.
I think Eubank will spend too long showboating and trying to work out a way past groves’ jab, but by the time he does he will be far behind in points.
There’s a good chance he will get knocked out with a counterpunch whilst swinging a wild hook or uppercut.

 

I feel Eubank stops him late behind on the cards but want Groves to win

 

I’ve gone for a late Eubank stoppage as I’m not too sure about Groves remaining hunger for the game and also have doubts about McGuigan as an elite level traininer

 

I don't see gg on the slide. I don't see cejr as the next coming. GG's losses against Froch don't count for me as pointers for this fight. A Prime Froch would rip cejr to pieces at smw (getting hit a lot in the process). I think GG will take most of the early rounds and survive the last few. Depending on the level of corruption among judges and the ref the most likely outcome, if these are impartial, is GG by points, then Gg by stoppage, then Cejr by points.

 

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Senior is a full of the brown stuff. First few seconds, Junior throws a 5 punch combo, catches gloves apart from the last shot and gets caught with a 1-2 and his dad goes “hey hey hey”. He’s beating up on a novice and he’s getting caught. 1 min 11 sec, he gets caught with a lovely straight right.

Junior is not difficult to hit, and Groves with his stone + in advantage is going put some really heavy shots right down the pipe.

I’ve put a small bet on rounds 1-3 & 4-6 at 14/1 and 9/1 respectively.

 

I don't know why Jr is talking about being so small, I actually think it's total BS any way

Jr is a super middleweight, sure he might be able to boil to 160 but 168 is definitely his most comfortable weight.

Jr is a much bigger middleweight than Groves is a super middleweight. For all the talk of Jr being a stone lighter that just seems delusional.

Jr needed to weigh in twice for 50% of his 160 fights and I only think he made 160 7x in his career (or thereabouts).

Groves will be no more than 5lbs bigger, Jr weighs at least 180 fight night IMO.

Yildirim looked about 3 weight classes bigger when the fight was announced but by the time he boiled down on fight night they looked a very similar size.

With Groves it will be no different, in the ring Groves won't be anywhere near as big as he was before Xmas.

 

James, he doesn’t boil down to make 168, he’s already just below it, so how can he go up to 180 on the night?

He’s aesthetically amazing, but his frame is that of a middleweight.

Look at the size of Groves on fight night, he’s huge mate. When Eubank got in the ring after that Groves-Cox fight, the size was significant. He isn’t unique in that, i’m not saying anything outrageous, lots of fighters put on the best part of a stone, sometimes more when they hydrate.

 

Can't say I saw what you saw.

Groves is bigger for sure, but a stone is ridiculous.

Jr does cut weight to make 168, look how dry he looks to make the limit and then compare it to fight night.

Posting a video of him weigh in @ 164 is just smoke and mirrors

 

There’s always a chance of smoke and mirrors, I accept that possibility. I’ve just looked at him at weigh-ins and right after the fight against Yildirim and Abraham, he looks the same mate. He’s really lean.

A stone isn’t ridiculous...the bigger lads can do that in a day. One day, me and you are going to agree on something mate, haha

 

About the size, people who know them, people who have sparred them, people who have seen them next to each all say the same thing, Groves is a far bigger Super Middleweight.

It's not just my opinion, A few say it on here, Watch the video

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Jr is never out of shape, he is always sparring @ his fighting weight.

A lot of other fighters walk around much heavier than they fight like Spence, Crawford and Brook. They all walk around @ 175-180lbs, the same as Eubank Jr.

Groves probably walks around 95% of the year @ 14 stone 4+ out of camp and looks like a cruiserweight (@ that weight he would be tbf)!!!

Groves tries to peak on fight night, but he would only weigh 13st 2 or something similar in the ring, I don't believe he cuts anywhere near as much as Callum Smith for example who is a genetic freak.

What I am trying to say is most people see Groves when he's much heavier than his fighting weight so obviously believe he is bigger than he actually is.

 

Far better judges than me are leaning towards Groves, I said earlier in this thread I'm leaning towards Groves and I haven't changed my mind.

In that little video I am with Bellew, never thought I'd say that LOL, he nails exactly how I feel about it.

Groves is bigger, Jr isn't going to bully him physically, Groves is better technically, if Groves starts the fight snapping out the jab he has then Jr is in trouble because Groves will control the distance and that's half the battle against Jr.

Jr has got stamina to burn, he has got a good workrate but is not a good boxer, he isn't very good technically, his footwork is average, he lunges in and leaves himself wide open at times and is there to be hit and I don't care how good his chin is if Groves smashes him in the mouth he is going to be in trouble.

This fight will be decided quickly, if Groves does what most believe he should do and uses that jab from the start then I believe he goes on to win, if he stands and fights with Jr then he will seriously struggle.

That said I want to see what happens when if and when they are up close and Groves hits his body, Sr had a great chin but never liked a body shot, wore his shorts under his chin.

 

As I said it's not just my opinion, nearly everybody on that video mentioned the size difference, it could be a factor.

Sr and Jr are mentioning it at every given opportunity.. "Jr isn't a Super Middleweight" those are Sr words not mine and he was a Super Middleweight, on the other side of things Groves is a Super Middleweight and a very big one.