The best fighter in history you'd favor Wilder to beat...

I think he beats a lot of the old school small heavies, just by his size, height and reach. Also has pop.
I think your comment is right. Wilder and his team know about his chin, but i think he has improved ,not his chin(as he should) over time.He is being held back and has got away with fighting guys that hold very little threat. He could beat most of the heavies out there,but his team won't take the risk.The only time they will put him in deep is a huge fight with AJ.£££££.Where the outcome either way is big bucks.If he looses,he'll disappear.

 

while i think wilder has a good fighter in him waiting to get out after 39-0 fights i still cant be sure

ortiz is the first 50 -50 fight he has been in.

the ortiz fight will colour how i see him v a lot of fighters if he gets the win.

does not matter how he wins just that he wins

ortiz ( i dont care what age he is ) is a good fighter with a good skillset and if wilder beats him he moves up massivley IMO.

wilder has power to beat a lot of fighters of yesteryear but the abilty to take a punch and beat a skilled fighter / the jury is still out.

many people shitting on ortiz / IMO they are wrong / he is very good at what he does and if wilder is not a top fighter ortiz will finds him out / if wilder beats ortiz then he is a top fighter and an ortiz win will have proved it in my eyes .

people do not give credit where credit is due to fighters they dislike .

 

I think the Ortiz fight will go like the Stiverne 1 fight.

 

Ortiz is really a historical fighter given his prime should have been circa 1997.

 

Peter mcneeley

 

How does Wilder beat Louis? What exactly does he do to beat Louis? Seriously want to know your opinion on the matter.

 

ortiz is a lot better than stiverne
in all aspects of boxing

yes that was wilders best performance / but imo wilder will find it way harder to outbox ortiz than stiverne.

southpaw style which wilder is not used to
ortiz is very good at catching jabs on his right hand and then countering with his left down the pipe.
he is sharp at countering.
if wilder cant land his jab on ortiz then he will have to rely on single right hands against the southpaw/ and he throws them from too far back to catch a canny clever fighter like ortiz easily and flush .

wilder can get his jab through and box a sensible cautious fight with a gameplan he can win/ but IMO people are sleepwalking what ortiz brings to the table v a fighter like wilder.

ortiz will find it hard as well he will not be that good at landing the right hand v much taller wilder / but his stright shots and inside skills are way better than wilders / he is also precise something you cannot say about wilder.

wilder has speed of hand and legs and height/ but unless he adopts a gameplan and sticks to it he is going to get outboxed in this fight and will need his hail mary right hand to bail him out

on the plus side for wilder supporters so many cuban heavys fail when they step up for whatever reason / they just dont perform on the big stage.

will it happen to ortiz / no way of knowing.

 

Have you seen Ken Norton box? Have you seen his trilogy with Ali and his fight with Holmes?

 

The problem is that he is a world champion with five or six defences and we still don't know if he's any good.

 

He knocks the stuffing out of him, that's what he does. Louis is too small, light and slow to deal with any top 10 modern day HW. Wilder included (although he sucks). One can replace Wilder with any top 10 fighter in this equation. AJ, Wilder, Povetkin, Parker, Ortiz. They all destroy Louis and whoever else boxed 80-100 years ago.

 

Bruce Seldon

 

I think Wider will be to mobile for Ortiz.Winning the fight on the outside with a poss of a late TKO when Ortiz tires late.Hope i'm wrong though.

 

How though? I'm not talking about anyone else pre-Liston(although that's a weird generation gap to stop at) I'm talking about the greatest heavyweight of all time Louis.

It's pretty ignorant, damn right stupid to think Louis loses to someone like Joseph Parker, let alone Deontay Wilder. Louis was 6'2 and had blazing combination speed and.... actually, nvm.

There's no point in discussing this any further, I'm sure nothing I say will get through people like you who don't know a god damn thing about boxing. I think HW boxing has regressed since the 90's, I'll leave it at that.

 

that is the rational way a man of wilders height speed and length should box v ortiz.

its just that he has shown in virtually all his fights /and espeically all his defenses he just wings it
no gameplan just to ktfo his opponent and fuk what he looks like and how to set it up.

ortiz sets traps/ is in balance to counter mistakes /and has more power than any of wilders previous opponents.

another thing to factor in is if wilder hurts his fragile hands in this fight he is going to have to fight a much better fighter than he has ever fogught before while protecting his hands.

 

Cassius Clay