Prime Holyfield in this CW tournament?

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  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think Tyson was on steroids way before he was 19. I don't think he was a natural 220lb fighter either. His retirement weight is nearly the same as his fighting weight, give or take a few pound. When has that ever happened with a heavy....
     
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    Evander Holyfield is the greatest ever at Cruiserweight
     
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    Genetics.

    Just look at his constant weight. Stats dont lie.
     
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    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gassiev vs holyfield would be a absolute war, I think holyfield beats them all though.
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you clearly "didnt the math" that tyson wasnt trying to gain a lot of weight to move up a division.

    I am not sure how u'd expect a man to fight at HW if he didnt meet its boundary weight.
     
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    Stop smoking crack! How big is bowe?
     
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    You time him and then nail him coming forward. Holyfield would present a lot of openings for someone as skilled as Usyk to exploit. It's not always a good thing to be a volume puncher against someone who is capable of devising and implementing a better strategy. Usyk by late round stoppage.
     
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    LOL, Usyk is bigger than Lennox Lewis and George Foreman now?
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I suspect his weight gain was ...something to do with him wanting fight as a HW?
    dont give up the dayjob, Sherlock.

    Wheras tyson WOULDNT gain weight in the same because he wasnt trying to jmove up weight class.
     
  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Wins his first fight, then gets caught on peds.
    If he can mask it though, I'd favor him to win the tournament.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he was on steroids it was well before he was 19, he was 190lbs when he was 13 years old. Personally I think he was a freak, I doubt he was abusing steroids before he stepped into a boxing ring lol, don't need muscles to raise pigeons lol.

    His retirement weight is actually lower than his prime fighting weight. I think he's about 190lbs now. But that will be down to him becoming vegan and specifically training to lose weight after he allowed himself to get overweight during the early stages of his retirement.

    But I would be shocked if he didn't use steroid during his career, probably that post prison phase. He abused so many other drugs, why not roids.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol Usyk isn't stopping Holyfield. You think Usyk hits harder than Bowe, Lewis and Tyson. I don't, Bowe was the only guy to stop him in his prime and even then Hoylfield had Hepatitis for that fight.
     
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    190lb of pure muscle at 13 ?? I need a source mate, no disrespect. Tyson out of full time training is 2 stone lighter than his prime weight when he was training ???? Does that not scream something at you, regardless of his vegan diet ??? Tyson is your poster boy for steroid abuse imo. Also, as soon as Cus got his hands on Tyson, that's when it all started, not post prison. A man at 50 should not be weighing the same as he was at 13, naturally !
     
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    he looked fully grown at that age, some people just do.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep it was from a book originally, check link to see a pic of him at 13 years old, he looks about 18 years old. No wonder Cus took him on, Tyson was a physical freak.

    Check the vid to see a 15 year old Tyson an the junior Olympics it was at heavyweight, so he was at least 200lbs at 15 years old.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/48m81k/mike_tyson_at_13_years_old/

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