Just rewatched Froch vs Groves 1 if Groves is anywhere close to that level he beats JNR easy

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  1. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Groves looked exceptional outclassed froch in every department the jab was stunning and the speed his only issue was he gassed.

    Eubank jnr is nowhere close to the froch but sadly I think groves has declined quite a bit but still has enough to school him
     
  2. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    what surprised me so much was the effectiveness of Groves jab in the it really offset froch and the speed behind the punches was exceptional

    I hope he can get close to that level because if he is Jnr gonna get beat up badly
     
  3. james5000

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    If he doesn't beat Jr what does that mean?

    He's washed up?

    No it just means you are plain wrong
     
  4. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    groves clearly is not the same as he was when he fought froch but he still has enough to beat jr
     
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  5. james5000

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    Stop it, Groves is at the top of his game and form of his life.

    He will even tell you himself, becoming world champion has made him twice the fighter.
     
  6. Tyson Fury Goat

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    jnr himself said groves is not the same fighter after froch so he is wrong too?

    Yes he will say he is at his best he is not going to admit he is not the same is he? it will give his opponent the mental advantage
     
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately Groves will never be that motivated again, but at the same time Eubank Jr. isn't half the fighter Froch is, so Groves can still get the job done.
     
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  8. james5000

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    Jr is probably just trying to give himself some confidence, what he says is irrelevant. Groves knows himself better than anyone
     
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    I think that fight flattered Groves slightly. He landed the punch of his life in the opening round. Frock was fighting on instinct for several rounds, he said later that he barely remembered half the fight. Second time around, Froch came in prepared and it was a different fight.

    That said, there's no doubt Groves is the biggest challenge Eubank has ever faced. He has attributes that are potentially a nightmare for Eubank, cobra like speed (no pun intended), great jab and cross, which are likely to beat CEj's hooks and uppercuts to the mark, plus nifty footwork. It's also equally true that CEJ has some that are a nightmare for him, particularly pressure, fitness and work rate. That's what makes it such an intriguing fight.
     
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  10. Tyson Fury Goat

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    maybe groves his trying to give himself confidence?

    come on no fighter is gonna admit they are past it
     
  11. Tyson Fury Goat

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    Do you understand how much of a mental effect It has to be knocked out to cold? especially late out in your career?

    Groves was knocked out cold in Wembley that will play in his mind

    jnr is at his best groves is not simple as that

    doesn't mean groves wont win
     
  12. james5000

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    It may or may not it depends on the fighter, Groves has come back and claimed a world title!!!

    How can people say he was effected, a world class Chudinov couldn't get past half way mark against current Groves.

    Groves has the best jab in the game, he hits harder than GGG ffs. Groves has the footwork to out fox a slick Degale.

    Surely if Jr is such an easy beat this can't last past a few rounds.

    If Jr wins though he surely should be considered the best 168lber on the planet and an elite fighter
     
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  13. Tyson Fury Goat

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    groves himself admitted he was effected mentally by the knockout but he his moved past it was his words.........

    jnr said to groves that he was is not the same fighter and still had mental issues about the fight groves said yes he did have it after the fight and for some time and moved past it that in itself is not a good sign

    the bottom line is groves is not at his best anyone with a brain would know that he looked **** against cox a well placed body shot saved the day.

    eubank is fresher and is more hungry groves has been knocked out 2 time has mental issues

    Groves is not as motivated as eubank and this is yet anther thing
     
  14. Tyson Fury Goat

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    LOL just rewatched groves vs cox and im even more sure groves is nowhere near that level he was for the froch fights
     
  15. Ph33rknot

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    The question is is he still there after the losses