Doing a Jeff Lacey

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Devon Dog, Feb 8, 2018.


  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Lacy's record post Calzaghe and suffering that awful rotator cuff injury in the second round of his next fight after the shellacking at the hands of Calzaghe where 97% of the tendon had been ripped clean off the bone and the surgeons had to remove the whole thing and reattach it from scratch.

    WMD 10 Vitaly Tsypko in a fight that could easiy have been scored against him.

    WUD 10 Peter Manfredo in a fight that could have been scored against him too (I haven't seen it since it was broadcast but I remember thinking it was mighty close at the time).

    WMD 10 Epifanio Mendoza - another razor-close one apparently.

    LUD 12 via schooling to Jermain Taylor.

    WMD 10 Otis Griffin - Griffin said this was a really bad robbery and that he won 8 of the 10 rounds.

    LRTD 10 to Roy Jones

    LUD 12 to the 23-19-7 Dhafir Smith.

    WTKO3 to the 20-16-2 Martin Verdin.

    LTKO2 Umberto Savigne.

    WUD 8 over the 9-18 Timothy Hall Jr.

    LTKO4 Sullivan Barrera
     
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  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lacy was a creation of the US media and Boxing fans who deemed him to be one of the most promising super middleweights in a long time back in 2004-2006. Jeff was the betting favorite going into that fight. The Brits merely piggybacked off the Lacy hype and threw it back in our faces when Joe dispatched of Jeff in a way that was embarrassing.

    Lacy was more than a prospect. He was a world champion who had defended his title enroute to challenging the king at 168. The American media and fans felt confident Lacy was capable of beating Joe and handing him his first defeat.

    Jeff was the first to win a world championship in the class of Olympian’s out of 2000 so he was highly touted to be a dominant force at super middleweight.

    The English aren’t building Lacy up to be a hall of fame boxer or some all time great. They are merely claiming Joe beat an over hyped boxer that their guy exposed. I don’t think anyone in Britain or anywhere in the UK would make the claim Jeff Lacy is a hall of fame boxer.
     
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  3. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The idea that the well conditioned, fit Calzaghe was "too old" to fight favorite Jeff Lacy was so off kilter that Calzaghe would go on to fight and beat Mikkel Kessler, Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones. At that time, Jeff Lacy was greatly hyped for his power and said to be a “168 pound Mike Tyson”
     
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  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post.

    Lacy was an excellent talent going into that fight.

    He was simply outclassed by a classy fighter.
    Donaire, at the hands of Rigo was similarly embarrassed, and most fans, pundits, and fighters had Donaire high up the p4p rankings.
    Like Lacy, Donaire was far more damaged psychologically than physically.
    Donaire came back pretty strong, but a little bit late for reclaiming his potential.
    Lacy however suffered a typically career ending injury. His future teetered on his power that just didn't return.
    Nobody knows really if Lacy may have come back up....

    He gave a go, took some solid fights, but clearly not the same fighter.

    Lacy came up against a styles disadvantage and an ATG the same night.
    Lacy from that night mighta beaten Kessler or Froch or even Ward, none of which have the speed and defense of Slappy Joe.
    Mayweather has Lacy'd a dozen fighters. Hell, he toyed with Alvarez...but I wonder if Alvarez had a debilitating injury and lost most his bigger fights if ppl would be calling him a hype job, a fraud, or a bum 10 yrs later
     
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  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I don't think this site existed in 2006 and if Lacy was as big as say a Roy Jones was then Joe would have came here and not over to England. American boxers never went back to the UK after the way they treated Hagler after he KO'd Minter. Nobody wants to be treated like trash for beating a guy.
    So when you finish lying to yourself about who thought Lacy was popular, get back at me.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    This site existed long before 2006, i joined before 2004, when ESB first came up ,it was actually two sites in one, then it became one, then in 2004 there was a crash, so the record date started up again in 2004, I don't think it has crashed in years...............Rummy might know when ESB first came up, I have forgotten the exact date............but it's been running well since 2004..........it's my favorite site and has been for many years..........ask Rummy if he remembers.............
     
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  7. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mr M, I believe he what he represents, he will always be the "American Hype Job" and there have been quite a few over the years.

    Lacy was really built up, made out to be some monster and then once it was put in him he completely crumbled and after that fight he was never the same again.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    his pre-calzaghe record is the same.
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    loads of people kick those gates down. great standard u gave joe there.
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    they didnt, thats why he went to manchester for a fight, he was looking tobuild up an audience. America had already cottoned on he was a hype job.

    But he was just the guy joe had been waiting for, for 7 years, for a weak titlist to come along so that he could at the age of 34 challenge for a major world title. Later than froch et all, but well done what he did.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    thats lacy all over, but with zero good opposition until he fought joe.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Lacy was like a 168 version of Sam Peter.. Ever wonder why WK couldn't Lacy the ass off Peters and instead went life and death with him? I sometimes ask myself that question
     
  13. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You need some vinegar to go with the chips on your shoulder ...get over it, you probably think benn was a hype jobto ...after Dewit , Berkley & McCellan...
     
  14. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I remember you from the boxing insider and Klitschko forums back in 01/02??
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He was the first he poped that cherry