Who has a better KOs, TKOs, & RTD ratio than Wilder?

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Wilder's "power" is a fraud and a joke - just like he is. His KO record is the product of facing complete tomato cans and carefully selected fringe contender types and other mediocre rated fighters to create this ILLUSION that he's some big puncher - and that he can take a punch.

    As soon as he faces a REAL top fighter, he's going to be destroyed. Fakes like this make me sick, can't wait til he's annihilated.
     
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  2. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everyone has TKOs, everyone has KO, everyone has sleepers, everyone has standers, everyone's fought trash, everyone's fought cheap fights. I don't know why you think your **** is difficult to disregard, that was super easy.


    I realize you're absurdly offended by my conclusion. What I'm not getting out of you is even an attempt to explain why Wilder has a KO ratio that reflects old school fighter's records, pre 60s. All you've done is sat around until you think of a new excuse for Joshua. What are we at the fifth or sixth shiney new excuse for Josh?

    Anthony's TKO ratio is normal for a modern knockout artist. I don't know why you feel the need to make excuses for the dude, he's had a fantastic run. He has a perfect KO percentage, that's really all you need to say about his power, I really don't understand your hang up or why you feel the need to justify him having TKOs, his TKOs are justified by the fact most KO artists have more TKOs and while pushed a bit I think I can be firm now with claiming time.

    I've invited you to share your opinion on how Wilder gets KOs over TKOs several times and all you really want to do is cry about how AJ's got power too doe. Dude, yeah of course when I claimed "real power" I was being provocative but **** man I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. No one's saying AJ doesn't have power, all I did was highlight an anecdote about Wilder's record sharing a similarity with great punchers of the past like Dempsey and Marciano. Presently I am of the belief this is due to powerline theory.

    At the moment escudo, dino, Blackclouds, chitown, Bomber, and Lith have all managed some level of influence over my judgement, but you being so hung up on AJ has left you doing nothing but repeatedly being shut up until you think of something new.

    Give me a reason that explains Wilder having a KO ratio like it's 1918. None of yer mingeing has yet or even attempted to. You should expect to be disregarded as fanboy who can't get over the provocation long enough to actually attempt a ****ing point. That is what you are. You're at least the fanboy who champions for the balless rabble, which is respectable, but a fanboy with strong emotions that can't set them aside long enough to initiate a conversation dealing with the full scope of the claim nonetheless.
     
  3. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Skipped to the end to cry a little?
     
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  4. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua's 100 percent KO is far from normal, I agree with your conclusion but let's be honest.
     
  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can now be firm, from Sullivan to Patterson no HW champion had more TKOs than KOs with the single exception of Sharkey.

    Powerline boxing being something already out of date by Marciano's time it makes sense that Wilder's would be an exception for today. I'd say Breland is to thank.

    I'm not saying most boxers have a 100% I'm just saying Anthony having more TKOs than KOs is rather normal for modern knockout artists.

    You can't tell me that isn't what has everyone crying and pissing their pants either. It's because I highlighted something that makes Wilder exceptional and Joshua average and they just can't stand those adjectives being applied to those men in that manner, but no matter what way you cut it Wilder is the exception here and Joshua is the norm.

    To me it seems rather small and honestly, I was provocative because I was being lazy and hoped I could **** someone off into beating me to the research because ya know I do quite a lot and this is something any ******* can handle and though i was right about the level of Wilder hate this forum has I was totally off and unprepared for the level of Joshua fanboyism this forum enjoys. I thought for sure someone would go to bat for Foreman or Tyson, but no, all AJ, all ... AJ, all the time. Like he's boxing jesus over here.

    Knowing the level of research I have done, and the level of seriousness I can bring you have to know with people so unidirectionally minded I can't be half bothered to give much of a damn and give it an honest go. Especially, ****ing double especially, since I already know most people won't read most of what I write or have written. They're just going to notice a tid bit and take exception with that excerpt and make me do circles rather than progressing any narrative or debate. So if they're not down to progress the conversation then all I can to is entertain their ideas and to that end I have actually been quite ****ing pleasant. I've not used my knowledge against them, I've not taken it to a place where I have exclusive knowledge, i've kept it as fair as I can manage and even held mother ****er's hands to prove their own points for them even though it damages my claim.

    I dunno what else to do to stop their crying like twelve year old girls who just seen there daddy shoot their pony other than point out they are grown ass men crying over ****ing nothing and not bothering to prove any point as long as they can get their excuses for Joshua in like the mingeing bitches they are.
     
  6. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd have written a dozen posts like like this but if you are looking for unbiased discussion general isn't the place to do it. Classic still has it's fanboys but some are even still relentless fan boys for their favorite fighters. I'll admit favoring James Toney over most but nothing like the way people talk about AJ or Wilder.
     
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We will see how many KOs Wilder has at 49 fights if he makes it that far.

    He'll be lucky to be a Bruno type fighter if he ever decides to step up
     
  8. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I for one think your underestimating wilder. He's better than Bruno for sure and fights in an era where he can prove it.
     
  9. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How are we to know anything about the man. He wins against these pastry puffs, but gets knocked down and hurt repeatedly against them .
    Let's see what happens when he finally steps up. It all starts 3/3...
    He's 52, but will be a step in the right direction
     
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  10. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Why I disagree with Glaukos but don't think Wilder's a scrub comesdown to that. We just do not know enough.
     
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  11. JacobEr

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    Even Povetkin would have had 100% knockout with all of Wilder's opponents and probably with Wilder too. I really don't understand how it's possible to take seriously Wilder's opponents, Ortiz will be first serious opponent.
     
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  12. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well no one has went the distance with AJ yet and Wilder has went the distance therefore AJ has a better ratio.

    End thread and close your account !
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua has fought a bunch of no hopers and one old man. And he's scared of Wilder. His ko record is that of a total fraud. He's fighting another no hoper in Parker. He's lined up Headvetkin as a possibility. ****en coward. He's the biggest ***** the hvw scene as seen in a long time. Straight *****!
     
  14. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua has only fought 'no hopers'?

    He's fought, and stopped, 4 of the top 10 opponents from the organisation which Wilder represents.....

    Joshua is looking to become to hold all the best in the heavyweight division in just his 5th year.....
    Wilder hasn't looked to add a second belt in his 10 years.
     
  15. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    @GlaukosTheHammer

    I thought I had already explained why Wilder has so many KO finishes?

    It's because his power is a fraud.....

    TKO finishes demonstrate more 'real power' than KO finishes.

    Hence TKO finishes are more common than KO finishes.