I don't get why people think a 70's Foreman beats a prime Tyson

Foreman, in many fights fought "down" to his opposition.
Tyson ain't going to run. Foreman ain't going to run.
See projected fight results in either the alley behind the bars in (1) Brooklyn "Brownsville" and/
or (2) in the Fifth Ward in Houston.

 

Speed kills. I don’t know what else to add to this convo. Tyson is much, much faster than Foreman, much better defensively, and overall a far better schooled boxer. Foreman has the strength, power, and durability to pull this one off, but he’s clearly the underdog imo. As I already mentioned, I could see Tyson falling apart down the stretch but I don’t think it’s the most likely outcome.

PS - Do you think Tyson was at his best post-Douglas ko? I think he was pretty clearly on the downslope in the Ruddock fight.

 

I can understand why people think Tyson wins this but, as has been seen, he generally needs to stop his opponents early or else win a decision. Rare is it he achieves a stoppage beyond the halfway point.

I think Foreman remains dangerous, throughout and so, unless Tyson gets to him with devastating impact by round 4 or 5, his window gets closed.

 

Fair point though many (most?) of the men who went the distance against young Tyson did so by fighting (well, running or holding) to survive and giving up any hope of winning. Big George obviously isn't going out like that.

 

The question is can tyson get inside big george?

Foreman uppercut or tyson combination will land first?

If foreman uppercut the Down Goes Tyson, Down Goes Tyson.

I pick big george.

 

Foreman is rather overrated a bit.

 

What showed young Foremen to conclude he did have a better stamina than Tyson?

 

Tyson has the speed, chin, power, combination punching and skill to outclass Foreman entirely. I like Frazier but he wasn't as skilled as Tyson and wasn't as explosive. His left hook was dangerous but Tyson obliterated guys with either hand. Never saw that from Frazier.

Tyson tko 6th round or Tyson UD

 

Who concluded that?

 

In other words: What makes Foremen more dangerous late on compared to Tyson?

 

Considering his age, and his other performance in 90' and 91', I wouldn't say he was far removed from his prime if at all. Further, his previous fights were against subpar competition compared to Donovan and even Douglas that night. It's odd to me that he's "clearly" the underdog when he has the stylistic advantage in this fight, as well as some physical ones, not the least of which is mental.

 

True.

However, I do think Tyson’s ferocity dropped off significantly in the second half of a bout. If Foreman could negate the early storm, we might reasonably consider that George was able to take Tyson’s power, with things getting easier for Foreman; less so for Tyson, as the fight went on. I also think Foreman is stronger than Tyson and would become more of a problem for Mike, in terms of overall physicality.

Speculation on this bout hangs on whether or not Foreman’s approach/style can deter Tyson in the first-half; whether each of them can take the others power; how Tyson decides to manage Foreman, as the second-half progresses and whether or not that works for him until the final bell.

I personally think George had the power and presence of purpose to finish Tyson early - but that’s just a feeling. I wouldn’t ask anyone to place a bet on it, based on that.

In any event, it’s a cracking bout; more than simply about a clash between two ferocious punchers, in my opinion.