Would Rigo always get outclassed at the ATG level?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's just assume for arguments sake that Lomachenko right now is operating at an ATG level. Rigo was clearly outclassed and yes he was a little smaller and also older, but showed a major lack of skill.

    He looked like a dumb doofus in there against Loma. It was very reminiscent of Barrera Hamed where one guy finally stepped up in levels and got schooled technically. Both Rigo and Hamed looked like underskilled fighters in there, and yes Rigo did look underskilled. Offense is a skill guys and so is defense. Rigo knows defense, but at some point against a high level fighter you need to have some offensive skill to score points. Not every great defensive fighter has tremendous offensive skill, but they have enough to at least take advantage of some openings or **** it, produce something (just show us something, FFS, anything) themselves instead of passively waiting and negating all night long.

    Makes me start to wonder if Rigo was a hypejob guy who was hyped as this super great talent. But in the end lacks the offensive skill to rack up rounds with the best fighters.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I don't think so. Rigo was/is good enough to hang at a very high level. While he might lose to ATG's I don't think there are many that will Matrix him like Lomachenko did. What I saw that night was absurd.
     
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  3. Txomo

    Txomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rigondeaux is a 37 years old fighter that was outgunned by a 29 years old fighter two weight classes over him. And you are here now talking about a man who has dominated the super bantamweight division for six years.
     
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  4. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo is old and moving up in weight didn't help him
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Against domestic level Japanese...

    No Frampton, no Santa Cruz, no Barrera, no Morales, no Gomez, no Pac, no Quig. And now you are here talking about a man who has dominated the super bantamweight division like he ran through some elite fighters. The first elite fighter he faced who was not heavily undersized he was shown to have a lack of skill.
     
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  6. Flo_Raiden

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    You're basically just undermining Loma's win against Rigo. Rigo has shown great offensive skills but I will admit that he is a bit one dimensional. His lack of quality opponents had more to do with everyone running scared from him, especially after what he did to an elite like Donaire at the time. Let's not pretend that he wasn't skilled, he was just in there with a better fighter.
     
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  7. Txomo

    Txomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1- Nobody wanted to fight him.
    2- His style is boring for most of boxing fans.
    3- The TVs did not want to put him on a show because of #2
    4- His promoter did not want to promote him because of #3

    He started at pro-boxing at 29. He's always fight like that. His chin is not iron. You don't teach an old dog new tricks. The dog does not want to learn new tricks. The dog does not want to please the fans. The dog does not want to please his promoter.

    You are talking about Rigondeaux resume and you don't mention Nonito Donaire, who was Top5 P4P back in 2013 and totally outclassed by Rigondeaux.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I wouldn't pick him over any ATG super feather weight.

    For all anybody knows he could get served up good and proper by guys around now like Valdez , Beltrecht , Selby.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rigo's offense isn't what lacked. Loma showed a glaring hole in Rigo's defense that few people noticed before. It could be smothered, fairly effectively too. When he bent low to avoid shots out of range he put all his weight on his backfoot. That combined with his very wide stance prevented him from being able to reposition when Loma stepped to the inside.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Donaire is a 112 pounder. Rigo got schooled by Loma and it makes me wonder if he's overrated and can't handle that level of fighting. His resume is trash.
     
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  11. VG_Addict

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    I'd give Frampton a puncher's chance against Rigo, and Santa Cruz could outwork him.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He landed maybe 5 relatively clean punches all fight long. As for the other post yes I agree that he was off balance often.
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, but he was soooooo hyped up. The hardcore fans were all beating the drum hard that he was hands down p4p #1 who was being shut out of the sport for being too good and too boring. But then he wet the bed and hasn't shown his face since.
     
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  14. VG_Addict

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    Rigo's punch output is very low. He makes Floyd Mayweather look like Julio Cesar Chavez. I think Santa Cruz would have given him problems with his volume and workrate.
     
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  15. Northadox

    Northadox Active Member Full Member

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    With his amateur accomplishments and skills he proved in pros, I dunno how you can wonder if Rigo was a hypejob

    Loma was far better on the day, that doesn’t mean Rigo was never also a very very good fighter
     
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