Unrealized the story of Ike Ibeabuchi

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Good article
     
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    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too bad he was crazy.

    He could have done some serious damage in the early 2000's.

    In the article, Jim Lampley says he doesn't think Ike would have beaten Lewis because "Lewis was 100 percent more squared away."

    Jim adds that "it wasn't a rational thought" to think Ike could beat Lewis and that many Americans just wanted to see Lewis lose because he was British.

    Just because there was some nationalistic sypathies there, it doesn't follow that it was "irrational" to think Lewis could go down - and he ultimately did so, to a guy not as good as Ike.

    Jim's nose is way up Lewis's behind. LOL. Obective? Nope. HBO shill? 100 percent.

    The fighter "more squared away" may do better in the long run but it doesn't always matter for one particular fight.

    It didn't matter when Lewis was cold cocked by the mentally unstable Oliver McCall or the hardly "squared away" Hasim Rahman.
     
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    Yeah, but I'd definitely pick Lewis to beat Ike. Ike had trouble winning rounds against Byrd and Tua.
     
  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not even sure Ike even has the puncher's against Lewis. Anything is possible, one supposes, but it's more likely that Lewis would have boxed his head off to a shut-out UD.
     
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    Good article. When you look at the weakest kind of guys who ended up holding a HW belt during that period, Ibeabuchi certainly could have held a belt in an era where Foreman, Micheal Bentt and Frans Botha held titles. Absolutely.

    but it’s also worth remembering what Lou DiBella says about it being a wasted exercise thinking about all of the “what ifs”. What if he didn’t go crazy? That’s kind of a big one right there.

    And that’s just one “what if“!

    What if he was a drugs cheat? What if he only had two great wins in him? What if he fought an elite fighter at that time?
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "After the eight-count, Ibeabuchi charged in, landed a couple more huge shots and missed wildly with some others, and with one second left on the clock, Rall called a stoppage that was, on careful inspection, poorly timed — Byrd was defending himself adequately at that moment "

    Seems I'm not the only one that thinks that...
     
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    No there is two of you.lol
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And many more.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You guys!
     
  11. mcvey

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    Not the ringside reporters, the tv commentators ,or the guest commentator p4p ATG Roy Jones who was ringside.
    Nor the next morning write-ups in the sports pages.
    No complaint from Byrd about the stoppage in the 17 years since either. But you know best.:thumbsup:
     
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    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think I might be in the minority too Mcvey lol...He seemed to be avoiding the majority of the onslaught, as vicious as it looked !
     
  13. mcvey

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    No,I've told you before , I tell you what you think, and when to think it!:nonono:duh:fusmile:headbash
     
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    He took a monster left hook/uppercut that started it all, vicious vicious shot, cant believe he got up tbf. Then up against the ropes he caught a couple but noticeably avoided some, he had his instinct to avoid still, to me that's a close call. Byrd was a very clever fighter, imo he could've maybe got his head clear down to savviness, and skill, but the natural size and power of Ike would've eventually ground him down where he wouldn't get up !
     
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    I think Byrd was on his way to Zaireing the Nigerian