Pipino Cuevas vs Miguel Cotto @147

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  1. Jay1990

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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cuevas would not knock out Cotto in one round, but he would stop him in about 4 or 5. Cotto was not strong enough at 147 for a guy like Cuevas regardless of fighting at 160.
     
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  3. Contro

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    Cotto is a better more well rounded fighter, he could stick and move if he wanted. Cuevas was strong and powerful but he didnt put as much pressure on as Margarito.
    Cottos chin is underrated, he mostly got hurt by cute guys with fast hands who caught him with shots he didnt see when he put his hands up and rushed in. He had trouble with handspeed, not power.

    Cotto by late stoppage.
     
  4. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good fight. Not sure who to pick in this one.
     
  5. Xplosive

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    I cannot for the life of me see Cotto winning this one. Too hittable, too fragile.

    Cuevas KO 6.
     
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    Cotto could NEVER "stick and move". The guy has always been very hittable not matter what strategy he employed.

    He was never hard to hurt either. Now granted, he usually recovered well, but Cuevas was a ruthless finisher and I never saw any of his opponents survive once they were hurt.

    Cotto IS the more well rounded of the two, but Cuevas is wrong for him.
     
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  7. Contro

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    He doesn't have to not get hit. He just has to be cautious, not exchange wildly and move away from punches instead of bending over and running into them carelessly like he did in EVERY instance where he got caught and hurt by a quick handed fighter. Pacquiao, Torres and corley all hurt him in exchanges

    By your logic Cotto should havenever been able to dominate randall Bailey like that.

    If prime Cotto boxes like he did vs canelo, heshould be favored slightly
     
  8. Xplosive

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    Scrubby Randall Bailey was NOT Pipino Cuevas
     
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    He had just as much power did he not?
    Torres, Pacquiao, Mayweather,corley and even sadam Ali. Every time cOtto got hurt by a single punch was when he was the agressor and was trying to bully an opponent that he thought he could outgun.

    Once Pacquiao had hurt Cotto and Cotto became more defensive Pacquiao could no longer drop him. Canelo couldn't either because Cotto gave him respect.

    Cotto never got KOd, both Stoppage losses were mercy stoppages

    If Cotto gives Cuevas respect, he has a very good chance.
     
  10. Russell

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    Cuevas within 5-6. Margarito is a modern day welterweight boogey man that ended up crushing Cotto under his stylistic heel. Cuevas was an entirely different kind of fighter than Margarito but was every bit if not more feared and devastating a fighter. People seem to entirely forget his historic string of title defenses.
     
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  11. Xplosive

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    Randall Bailey had just as much power as Cuevas?

    Dear God, I've heard it all now...
     
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    If not more so. Not as good overrall but in terms of 1 punch power, randall was about as dangerous a 1 punch threat as there is.
     
  13. Xplosive

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    Absolutely... NOT! Bailey had a powerful right hand, but it was by no means on par with Cuevas' hook.
     
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  14. Contro

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    Based on? Ive never seen any fighter other than Julian Jackson have such a devastating effect on his opponent with just one punch. Bailey can miss a fighter by a mile for 10 rounds and knock you out with the first punch he lands. People went down like they had been shot in the head by a rifle. Most of his KOs look like the Hearns vs Duran KO.

    Bailey is shot as hell, over 40 and last year he still managed to drop and badly hurt the much bigger Jeff Horn with just about the only right hand he landed. The guy can do one thing and that is punch like just about no other
     
  15. Russell

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    I think modern fight fans might get carried away with Bailey's power somewhat because he's a name fighter and has been for a very long time, with devastating knockouts sprinkled throughout the entirety of his career and with him being matched up against so many big names over the years. He's a fighter who's gotten a lot of word of mouth hype on forums over the years. But no... I don't think it was quite as legendary as the frightening power Cuevas packed.
     
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