Emanuel Dapidran Pacquiao vs. Mike Alvarado

I had no idea Alvarado was even still fighting. Why didn't that fat, no discipline drug addict just retire after the third Rios fight?

 

First guy I thought could have that record is old Samson Dutch Boy because he defended that cornflakes box belt nearly 40 times but it appears he has non title bout thats a c-c-c-combo breaker.

He had a run of 11 then that fight and then another 28 if I counted correctly.

 

I think Pac stops him! If not for so many headbutts Pac would have stopped Horn, he did clearly win, but Horn had the criminals behind him.............

 

The truth is stranger than fiction.................Arum is rich as hell, he does not need to cheat fighters. Arum is a graduate of Harvard Law School, but used to get out smarted by Don King all the time! Arum was promoter first, but King was more successful............

 

I think Hopkins has about 40.

 

Pac vs. Alvarado is no good. But whatever. He's a former titlist so it pads that stat and he is a name boxing fans know. Could have been a random 31-3-6 Thai fighter in an 8 rounder in Manila and, ultimately, would it be so unacceptable? Sure, Hopkins was near 50 and still went out fighting Kovalev and Joe Smith but look at legend Roy Jones and the last decade of his career or even Joe Louis' comeback between Ezzard and Rocky. So, I'm likely to never sound so OK with the fight as I do now, but everybody knows it sucks so once you just accept what it is it's fine. Crawford vs. Horn on ESPN PPV is the new age we were waiting for over at Top Rank, I guess. Prediction is: Pacquiao wins every 45-second span of the fight and count me in the camp that sees an above 30% chance of Pac by stoppage.

 

pac is just for the entertainment of fans and not legacy fights anymore. unless he will take a current strong champion. this is good for the fans but his purse is a burden for his promoter, henceforth.

 

Wow, this is sad and embarrassing. Pac deserves
far better. A 10 rounder vs. a zombie and we all
know this isn't gonna be Pac's last fight. He's officially
out to pasture now,

 

I think just like the Chicago Cubs Pac's curse might actually end and he will finally get a KO..

 

Yep, just counted, forty on the nose from Aquino through Smith. Wow.

 

The Arum effect

 

How turned upside down would the boxing world be if all the underdogs sprang upsets on April 14th?

Not so much Dogboe "upsetting" Magdaleno, clearly - but in the welterweight contests.

Tell me either of these scenarios (while not what I'm expecting, or even super likely for that matter) are that far-fetched:

• Crawford starts out slow, getting his engines warmed up for a few rounds letting Horn outwork him while settling into a rhythm and getting ready to box his ears off en route to a 117-111ish UD or late stoppage with - OH NO! FIGHT-ENDING CUT FROM A HEADBUTT!! PAST THE NO CONTEST MINIMUM CUTOFF. HORN TD, WTF?!??

• Pacquiao gets Alvarado hurt, is desperate to finally get back on the scoreboard with a KO to scintillate the fans and show that Stella has got her groove back, and in the heat of the moment either forgets about KO6 or assumes that Alvarado isn't a tenth as good as JMM, so **** it - bunny-hops in looking to finish him off with a flurry, leaving his face wide open for the dangerous cornered animal to hurl the same exact shotgun right hand that precipitated KO6 (and which also demolished Siqueira)...as while Pac would indeed be correct in surmising that Alvarado isn't 1/10th as good as JMM overall, his power in that RH is probably comparable, and he throws it the same way (same velocity, force, and form) and would just need Pac to do some of the work for him by jumping in so all he needed to do was time it...

Look. I expect Crawford and Pacquiao both to dominate, with little trouble...but if either or both of the above scenarios were to play out that way it wouldn't be the biggest shock in the history of the world, ever. There is a reasonable degree of risk IMO, that either of those scenarios could play out, if either of the favorites are careless to a fault in overlooking their opponents. At the end of the day, these fights are Bud's and Manny's to lose, but hubris can be & has been the undoing of many a great fighter.

So then what?

Then we face the mind-boggling possibility Jeff Horn vs. Mike Alvarado in the fall on PPV for what some would argue is the *lineal welterweight title!! Oh, to hop in a time machine a couple of years and see what our past selves thought of that little doozy...


*won by Pacquiao in 2016; Horn's claim to it hinges on whether or not you buy Pac's brief retirement in between the Bradley rubber-match and Vargas to be a legitimate one, substantial enough to suspend the lineage by forfeiting his own claim to it. As someone put it on another forum: "He fought Jessie Vargas less than 7 months later though? Including negotiating, announcing, building up and training for the Vargas fight he can't have been retired for more than 2-3 months? Weird." Plus, I'm not sure he used the word "retired" after Bradley III; he very carefully phrased it as thinking he "probably wouldn't fight again" or something like that, if memory serves.

Anyway, that is many cans of worms opened at once... (there is the question of whether people even agree in the first place with Pac becoming lineal as of Bradley III in the wake of Mayweather's retirement; then whether Pac's lineage was broken when he "retired" for the middle part of 2016; and finally whether the lineal championship was to be considered at stake in Pac vs. Horn, which I don't remember anybody claiming it to be, and yet if you trace it back there is a case to be made...)

 

What do you expect for a has been. Some of you are shocked and I find it funny.

 

I mean nobody should be shocked. Alvarado has been rumored to be the next opponent for a couple of months now (I think since the calendar turned from 2017). At most, the severest reaction ought to be resigned disappointment (because some people let themselves get excited thinking Matthysse's public call-out and Pac's enthusiastic response would result in Arum pulling a last-minute switcheroo...because, you know, Bob has such a history of caring so much what Pac or the fans want )