Lomachenko vs. Linares or Beltran TR/GB Negotiations Discussion thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Chicano, Aug 5, 2017.


  1. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Shut up you mental patient. The only time Loma's name came out of Bercheat's mouth was after the announcement he was moving to LW. Loma would beat Bercheat worse than the genetic lottery beat you.

    Try telling the best available opposition to actually fight Loma.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I merged all of El Chicano's Loma vs Linares/Beltran threads together into this one, so if you're looking for one, its in here.
     
  3. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    You mean Lomachenko is ducking Berchelt? THIS Berchelt?

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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's like saying the Jack that retired Clev, beat Groves, Dirrell and DeGale is THAT Jack that got KO1 by Edwards.

    The reality is, its this Berchelt, who stop Piriyapinyo in 4, who happened to go the distance with Lomachenko...
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    That Loma isn't ducking. Berchelt is a quality fighter, and quite frankly, his resume is more impressive than Beltran and Linares' recent wins. I rate his wins over Vargas and Miura higher than wins over Campbell, Gesta, Crolla, Menard, Vasquez and Moses. He's one of my favorite fighters, and the Florez fight was one of those freak occurrences, I'd pick Berchelt to beat everyone in the SFW without hesitation, including Duckvonta.

    But not Loma. Loma is merely looking for high profile, big money fights, Isal knows that, and Linares and sadly Beltran fit that profile more than El Alacran does.
     
  5. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berchlet is not even a challenge for Loma. Yes, Berchlet has a belt but I don't see anyone at 130lbs beating Loma.
     
  6. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    You know that I'm just trying to wind up that Canelo nuthugger, don't you?
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yes, of course I do. But not at the expense of Berchelt.:deal:
     
  8. Phelps-Brady

    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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    Fishnets make the fight!!!

    Linares is practically begging for it:

    "Vasyl Lomachenko, I know you are ready for May 12. Also I am too. I don’t want politics to interfere with our bout. I will tell my promoter Golden Boy Boxing no matter what will take the fight for the benefit of boxing and the fans. #teamlinares,” Linares said on Twitter.

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  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Jul 2017

    “I would love to go against Lomachenko,” Berchelt said. “I’m really dedicated to winning against the best.”
    “He’s a great fighter,” Berchelt said of Lomachenko. “He’s a champion. He was a great Olympic fighter, too. I don’t take anything away from his boxing ability. However, he does have a loss and that loss is against a Mexican. If I were to go up against him, I definitely would be able to beat him.”


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    "I have to change the preparation a bit because Mijares is left-handed. Right now I do not know who they will put in front of me, but I know that the preparation I did with [trainer] Alfredo Caballero will help me to beat anyone," said Berchelt, adding that after the upcoming defense he would be interested in a unification bout against pound-for-pound king Vasiliy Lomachenko.

    Right after his win
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    Stop being pathetic
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What's your point? Are you a new boxing fan and just ignorant or an insecure emotionally attached nuthugger?
     
  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    To me Beltran fight is BS, it shouldn't happen.
    Loma and his team need to push for Berchlet or Linares fight.
     
  12. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    What's my point? Your dumb ass still claims that Mexican brawlers are "Lomachenko's kryptonite" because Loma lost a fight on paper to a cheating Salido 4 years ago. If that bout still matters that much then I guess that fight where Berchelt got destroyed in round 1 by a noname bum also carries weight according to your warped logic, doesn't it?
     
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  13. Amazing one

    Amazing one Active Member Full Member

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    A travesty if Lomachenko-Linares doesn't happen. Nobody at 130 comes close to beating Lomachenko.
     
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  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Not sure how someone who claims to be a fan of boxing be so ignorant.

    Berchelt has proven himself 10 fold since that loss.

    As much as I like Lomachenko, truth is he hasn't fought anyone remotely close to Salido since, Berchelt would be the closest thing to that.

    Another thing, I think Loma is great and would and should be a favorite against Berchelt, but its rather cheap and almost cringeworthy to get all this hype but fail to clear the division you're fighting or at the very least challenge the top dog.

    I don't blame Loma though, its how Arum plays and builds his fighters. He did it with ODLH in his very early years at SFW, with Pacquiao at LW, and JrMW, and with several other fighters.
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Not to argue with you about anything but to just remind you that Loma suffered a hand injury against Piri.
     
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