Groves Eubank post fight thoughts

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  1. dryzer

    dryzer Active Member Full Member

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    so basically he almost won if everything was completely different!!
    also i doubt anyone will ever stop eubank
     
  2. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    No one will ever stop Eubank, I've been saying this for ages, I identified immediately after the O'Sullivan fight that he had a cast iron chin. He did suffer one legitimate KD yesterday largely due to his lack of balance but he was clearly hit on his way down so it was a KD missed by the ref.
     
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  3. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Fought a boring negative "jab n grab" fight. It nearly backfired badly on him in the end.
     
  4. CutThroatFade

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    I agree. Tactically it was the right thing to do but the ref should have stopped the excessive wrestling to stop Eubank's inside fighting.
     
  5. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    No, very little would have needed to be different...that's the whole point.
     
  6. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    What did you want Groves to do?

    If you were his trainer what tactics would you have asked him to carry out?


    Surely you'd ask Groves in a fight like that to just Box, embarrass Jr, make it an easy night, take away the opponents best assets and show his skills?

    Or would you have asked Groves to go out, load up, fight and brawl, take unnecessary risks?
     
  7. RoughD

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    Groves fought the perfect fight to get the win
    Why would you do anything else?
    He has the better ring smarts to be able to execute the game plan
    Jr looked lost and never once troubled groves
     
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  8. Amazing one

    Amazing one Active Member Full Member

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    And he won, comfortably. Not everyone will just stand with a high guard in the pocket like Yildrim. Boring or not, that was Eubank's job to use his 'superior' fitness & intensity, he just wasn't good enough.

    And it was hardly jab & grab, he landed the cleaner counters & shots generally.

    What do you want, fighters to fight to opponents strengths ?
     
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  9. RoughD

    RoughD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves bossed the fight off the ropes and had the cleaner work on the inside also.

    Eubank and his team literally had no idea what to do
     
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  10. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    groves hurt jnr on multiple occasions so it definitely wasn't a jab and grab show. I reckon there was a good chance jnr could have been knocked out in the 12th if the shoulder didn't go.

    what impressed me most about groves performance was how he weathered the storm (though most punches were missing) in the 12th with one arm and then finished the last exchange on top by hurting jnr with I think a right uppercut.
     
  11. Diggedag

    Diggedag New Member Full Member

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    Sorry but ... no.

    Despite all his flaws and failings Junior's crudeness is dangerous especially when he becomes reckless.

    Rooting for Groves yesterday but I am not a Groves fan. George did the right thing, it was a good and watchable fight with a dramatic ending. If anybody is to blame it's junior, senior and their whole corner.
     
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  12. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on, a great post.
     
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  13. Twentyman

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    It was the little subtleties in Groves’s approach that i enjoyed last night. He was throwing feints all night long, setting traps for Eubank to fall in so he could land that right hand. To Eubank’s credit, he didn’t fall for it much but the feints did make him reluctant to lunge forwards. Groves circled him really well too, Eubank’s feet are poor and he couldn’t set himself. BJS did exactly the same. He tied Eubank up really well, and actually landed some nice shots himself on the inside.

    This wasn’t close at all, Len. They are levels apart. I agree with @N17 , imo Eubank went down twice.

    I can now actually enjoy watching Junior now that the hype as been blown away. Much the same way I really enjoy watching Spike. If he’s matched well, he is an absolute joy to watch. With a stylistically suited opponent, he is entertainment personified. I want to see him in with the likes of Ryder, Cox, Lemieux, Spike (again) etc. He can have a great career & maybe pick up a title somewhere. He would slaughter Truax but he doesn’t deserve that shot, not yet anyway. Fight in the summer & again in November and finish the year on a positive.
     
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  14. lencoreastside

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    To impress me groves really needed to close the show against such a totally overmatched and clueless opponent. Ironically it was bigger heavier man...the one who did all the wrestling and spoiling that injured his shoulder! That injury could have cost him dear if it happened a round or two earlier. Plus he had the additional benefit of Eubank losing vision in one eye!

    Short of Eubank choking on his gum shield and senior having a heart attack at ringside it's hard to imagine how Eubank could have been worse off...and yet despite all the factors against him groves could not finish him off.
     
  15. lencoreastside

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    :) I know it wasn't close 20. I had it about 9-3. Groves was vastly the better man, no doubt about it.cej is fit brave and tough though.shame he never developed the fundamentals of boxing.