Groves Eubank post fight thoughts

Personally I think Jr should steer well clear of Saunders. Saunders on point like he was against Lemieux would make him look silly

 

I said in my pre fight post that groves will pick at junior and out box him, Jr will have some success but not bring enough power at SMW, I had my money on Groves and he didn’t let me down. I don’t think it was an easy night for Groves by any means, he took some shots but that was just because Jr fought an awkward rush game, Groves was very slick by using the ropes and then pivoting out of Jr’s flurries and then back to the distance and throwing the cleaner and flush shots. We saw that Jr needs a trainer, he needs to listen and he needs to learn to box, all the work and rushing doesn’t apply when you’re against a solid fundamental boxer, I think Groves deserves to be where he is. The final is going to be a cracking contest all being well his shoulder gets right and he can make it !

 

Happy for Groves. After Froch and the close defeat to Jack he had quite a road back.

The guy deserves major props for sorting himself out and climbing the mountain again.

 

From the word's of Naz.....

''Him get bruk up''

 

The main things that other fighters will take from this fight is that if you have reasonable feet you should be able to deal with Eubank. He is a plodder and has been made cumbersome at best by the two fighters he has fought with better than average footwork. He cannot jab that well and with his elbow problems and that fight last night it pretty much confirmed that he just cannot really throw the straight right, dont think I seen a single straight right from Eubank all night. No Jab, no straight punches and poor footwork meant that it is easy to box him on the outside.

The blueprint is there for inexperienced guys like me to see, so should be very obvious for those with better knowledge than me.

I wonder how long it will take for him to step in the ring with someone with good feet again?

It makes you think what GGG would have done to Eubank, the boy is tough and he woulda take a lot of punishment against GGG. Smart move not putting him in with him.

 

You are really clutching at straws len c'mon !! be reasonable, the exact same outcome would happen. Eubank is a tough SOB, there was not point chasing a KO, what Groves was doing was working to perfection anyone who then risks that is very naive and inexperienced. Things like saying he could have lost it after being down to one arm is insane. What fighter would ever make the favourite in a fight with one arm?!

The blueprint was written by BJS and used and bettered by Groves.

 

as far as Im aware he has a hyper extension problem with his right elbow, which would explain why he cant throw 'em. Im no doctor but this is what I have heard and you seem him often with the taping on the right arm and rarely throwing the straight right. Even in his videos there is no straight punches thrown. It would explain the over use of hooks and uppercuts

 

Andre no concessions ward

Geroge give me concessions groves

 

It wasn't the schooling some people are desperate for it to be and the punch stats bear that out. Woodhall's bias has influenced a lot of people it seems. I think 8-4 or even 7-5 was about right. (I'll provide a round by round breakdown if anyone wants).

Groves was able to control the distance with his reach, a better trainer/corner and Junior could have countered that better; he just looked lost at times.

He did also catch Groves reasonably flush a few times, so think perhaps a lack of power was his biggest failing. Smith catches Groves in that way and it's night night for the ginger bloke.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The punch stats article that was posted here before the fight showed that both fighters have a similar level of output with Groves doing it against a better level of opponent

"What does this mean for the fight?

Most people that are backing Eubank Jr. say that his work-rate and fitness would be too much for Groves.

However, the numbers suggest that their work-rates are similar, but Groves has the experience of maintaining this over 12 rounds – showing a much better pace in the last three rounds versus Gutknecht.

This means:

1. Work-rate is not an issue for either boxer, so the one with superior boxing ability will be successful.
2. Either boxer could raise the intensity to take their opponent out of his comfort zone – this could be early to induce fatigue for the later rounds, or saved for a late onslaught."

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-science-behind-george-groves-vs-chris-eubank-jr/

It came down to boxing ability in the end. Eubank lacks the skill, Groves has it.

 

7-5?? 8-4 is very very generous but 7-5 is way off the mark imo. You can’t just go off punch stats to try and justify 5 rounds to Junior.

I scored it 118-110, it would have been a bigger margin had he rightfully had 2 KD’s against him.

Ring generalship-Groves controlled the pace & tempo throughout. The fight was hugely influenced by Groves’s style. Eubank could not inforce his will, he was nullified consistently.

Groves landed the harder, cleaner shots. He put Eubank on the canvas twice. He hurt him a few times. Eubank caught Groves a few times but they were almost slapping shots that lacked real authority.

Defence- Groves was making Eubank miss loads, sometimes embarrassingly so.

Groves showed effective aggression. Throwing out the jab, hurting Eubank. Eubank showed aggression but it was not effective.


So let’s not try and make out this was anyway close. Groves is levels above Eubank. This is why people are saying it was a schooling. Punch stats are only part of the story.

 

Well i wasn't going off punch stats, I was just citing them to illustrate it wasn't the schooling some on here want it to be.

Think one of the KDs should've been scored but that it was still a slip, if that makes sense. The other was a straight up slip.

I don't think Groves did land the cleaner, harder shots at all. Maybe harder due to being the harder puncher, but cleaner? Not for me.

Yeah Eubank's shots had no clout, but that's down to the lack of power of someone in the wrong weight class. Also the fact is Groves defence was ok but the punch stats show it was far from impregnable.
With a decent corner guiding Junior there could've been a different fight.

I'd say Groves was closer to being stopped than Eubank was. One punch in particular late on that wasn't capitalised on, George was still unsteady nearly a minute later, Jr lacked the IQ to follow up - precisely the sort of scenario a decent trainer could've helped.