Could Tony Tubbs have whipped W.Klitschko ?

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  1. BCS8

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    :drooling:

    The Herol and Dino Klitschko hatefest continues.

    I wonder what the worst fighter would be, that they would still have the gumption to pick over the Klitschkos?

    I'm guessing Dino would have picked Leapai, if he hadn't already been flattened.

    Butterbean vs Wlad?

    Dino "I'll take the Bean! Too fast, too furious!"
     
  2. HerolGee

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    His major titleholders are, the former LHW byrd and frekin haye, though I give him credit for being unified at the end of his career, and I always have done, in case you want to make something out of that in your sneaky usual way.

    The amount of bum defences during this run is shocking, as soon as he fought someone with some mettle it was all gone.
     
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  3. HerolGee

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    ali was a HW all his pro career. Evander, you are even more wrong, he is forever referenced as an utstanding upstart CW to underline how good a HW he was.

    None of this is true with byrd.
     
  4. The Long Count

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    Actually to be even "more wrong" I have to be wrong in the first place. Which I'm not, which in turns scuttles your entire argument. When Wlad fought Byrd he was a heavyweight - that makes him a heavyweight. You seem hung up on calling him a middleweight. He had 3 pro bouts to start his career before he campaigned at heavy and was a heavyweight for 6 years by time he faced Wlad.
    In comparison Byrd actually fought more bouts at heavy than Holyfield, posted a better win percentage in the division, and actually defeated Holyfield head to head. Does that make him better than Holyfield I don't think so, but it exposes how disengenous your argument is, in a transparent attempt to besmirch a fighter you don't like. It's embarrassing.
    By your logic Lewis was held to a draw by a cruiserweight, a fighter at least that was more of cruiserweight than Byrd ever was a super middleweight. That's pretty bad. At least Wlad dominated his Smaller foe.
    By the way it's "outstanding" not utstanding.
    Cheers
     
  5. Man_Machine

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    I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here (no surprise there)...

    Does a comparison of Tubbs with Byrd and Chambers provide a realistic yardstick?
     
  6. HerolGee

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    uh?

    (written in at least two separate posts of mine)

    uhuh.you said it chewie. 2easy, 2 unerudite.

     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    Wlad doesn't stop guys who can move and have upper body defense. I suggest you watch his fight with David Haye and Brian Jennings.
    Embarrassingly those are about the only guys Wlad beat in over 60 fights that had any semblance of athletic ability.
    The other two quick movers he faced were Sanders and Fury and you saw what happened there. Wlad isn't stopping any Tubbs .
     
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  8. The Long Count

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    The point is Wlad excelled against boxer types his resume is littered with evidence of this, Tubbs doesn't bring the equipment to win this matchup. Tubbs got ko'd in one round by Lionel butler and Jimmy Ellis. He's not defeating a 6'6 monster punching heavyweight that boxes behind his jab. No chance imo
     
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  9. The Long Count

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    Guess you couldn't debate the points of my post. All too easy. Cheers
     
  10. Man_Machine

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    I tend to lean in that direction myself. That said, Tubbs' knockout defeat to Butler came a result of believing he could slug it out with someone, who was pretty much a slugger and he got caught cold by Ellis.

    Both were pretty devastating KOs. Though, neither were against what I would call a prime Tubbs.

    That's not to suggest that a prime Tubbs could have taken Wlad's power. I don't think he could and on that I'm sure we can agree but, I do think he could have made more of a fight of it, than either Byrd or Chambers did, in my opinion.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Butler did have immense power and i believe Brewster nominated him as the biggest puncher he came across by a length. Unfortunately he was a coke fiend.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Yet he defeated Bonecrusher Smith who was a SHW jab and grabber just like Wlad so there goes that theory.
     
  13. Man_Machine

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    He looked a solid, rough customer.
    Lewis outclassed and beat the will out of him. That combined with his poor lifestyle and conditioning effectively signaled the end of his meaningful career.
     
  14. HerolGee

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    i long ago guessed u run from your fails without trying to answer.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Tubbs had a quick jab and skills, but he was more of a safety first type, and I never saw anyone successfully counter Wlad's jab.

    After taking good right hand or two, Tubbs would be on defense, and this would become a boring type of fight, with Wlad not risking much but landing and throwing more.

    Maybe Tubbs would do a bit better than say Chambers or Byrd, that's about it.
     
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