Could Holmes carry Marciano's jockstrap? I think not.

Definitely a quantity over quality resume.

Whatever you can say about Marciano's opponents, they were at lest the most qualified opponents available.

 

Obviously a very highly partisan and skewed assessment but fair play as far as these things go. But how would it look if you gave Marciano's title opponents a similar treatment? (other than the obvious fact that it would be a much, much shorter list of course...)

 

Well, that went well.

 

People do on a regular basis!

 

And old.


I love Marciano like any other classic era aficionado. But I’ll go ahead and say it....the guy was rough around the edges. In fact for the first half of his career he wasn’t even very good at boxing. On more than one occasion he fell over while throwing punches because his footwork and form were terrible. His power and incredible grit won his early fights.

The last half of his career he improved as a boxer, but was never particularly technical. He also had the luxury of fighting great, but Past prime opponents. Louis was not even a shadow of his former self. Jersey Joe was old when he started getting good and was really old when he finally fought Marciano. Ezzard was old too.

These were the best at the time, so I can’t fault Marciano. He fought everyone he could to prove his greatness. But at the time even fans of the sport considered the HWs of the early 50s quite scant and the division lack luster. Marciano was the exception.

 

You definitly hit the boxingforum24 checkpot!
The Equalisionist Oscar goes to...............................Mr.DagoWop!

I´m stunned. This is probably the biggest pile of imbecilic dung i´ve ever read on this forum. A guy finding 20 (yes TWENTY) excuses for defending a crown to a 48 - 0. Awesome. Just awesome.

(And compare that to a fighter defending against 5 different old men in an era of 185 pounders)



I tell you some facts:

Holmes opponents and all of their opponents (1400+ boxers) had an average weight of 215lb.

Marcianos opponents and all of their opponets (1100+ boxers) had an average weight of 185lb.

Just leave that good fighters were they belong.

 

Holmes jab was constant and kept you on the outside, Larry boxed Cooney`s ears off and Larry could have taken Rocky`s punch because he got off the floor from that Shavers right which was as hard or harder than the shot that knocked Walcott out, as for Holmes carrying Rocky`s jockstrap the only reason why he wouldn`t be able to do that is because Marciano`s balls were so big! Two great fighters.

 

I watched a film study showing how Marciano would lean off center and position his right glove over the side of his jaw both things protected him from straight punches and that would help a lot vs Holmes jab, plus Rocky through the counter right after his leaning made foe`s over commit. (Reemus boxing).

 

I 'liked' that post not only because it made sense but because I genuinely liked it. It actually praised two great fighters, but not at the expense of the other. That shouldn't be too hard but it's something few of us do. And I love the line about Rocky's nadgers.

Mind you, if someone had put an elastic band round my bell end for six weeks (back in the day), I'd have been sporting a pair of spacehoppers as well.

 

Why would either one of them want to carry the others jockstrap? That is the real question.

 

Holmes is one of the ATG's that Marciano has a great chance of beating IMO.

 

Rocky leaned to his right,but he still had to take Louis' jab and Joe was past prime.Prime Holmes with a faster jab and 5 inches more reach should be able to connect on Rocky' s face just as regularly.The older Louis's right hand was absent in the Marciano fight,whilst not in Joe's class, Larry's cross would keep anyone honest,no one is marching through it with impunity.
The great weapon for the short croucher is the uppercut.Holmes had a terrific one.
Holmes also had wonderful recuperative powers if he was caught with a big shot,it was incredible the way he got up and went on to stop Shavers. For me Larry has the aces in this pack.

 

marciano would be like a littel hobbit trying to carry larrys jockstrap. its a big jockstrap.

 

Holmes made the remark in the heat of the disappointment of losing the decision in a fight he believed he had won.
He was also being heckled and baited by Marciano's brother who was doing his best to turn it into a Rocky Marciano celebration. Classless,self serving , and very impolite.
Holmes said,"If you want to get technical about it Rocky couldn't carry my jock-strap".
Technically he couldn't imo ,that doesn't mean he wasn't a great fighter and champion in his own right.
Because he undoubtedly was.