Hype and everything aside. At 135lbs Floyd or Loma?

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That fits Fluid's style. McGregor showed the way to keep a counter puncher/defensive fighter under wraps, by inundating them with light punches. McGregor soft tapped Fluid keeping him from punching back and nevermind that that isn't Fluid's style anyways, to punch a lot and Fluid could do nothing. Loma did the same thing to Rigo. The problem for Rigo is that he gave up too much weight and his power was ineffective. As for Fluid, he just had to wait for McGregor to gasssss, then go in the easy kill. It's kinda ironic for a so called defensive wizard to get tied up like that by a total noob like McGregor.
     
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  2. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Huh???
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    There is no comparison between Void and Lomachenko, Lomachenko is far more skilled than Void ever was!
     
  4. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    floyd didn't lose. so L's in the pro's are VERY relevant

    deal with facts and not opinions man
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're so ****ing stupid that you actually think PBF was trying against Conor? He was carrying Conor you fool.:deal: Using Conor as some sort of blueprint on how to neutralize PBF, wishful thinking at its absolute best. I have heard it all. You continue to out do yourself, keep up the good work.:eaea: Now I now you're a ****ing novice go back to watching WWE and UFC.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF's ability to fight against the ropes make people miss and counter effectively in his prime was legendary. He also made people miss in the pocket to. You just don't want to give than man an ounce of credit. Dirrell on the outside??? LMFAO. When have you seen PBF get hit with the same punch over and over through the course of a fight other than a jab? You haven't. PBF fought better fighters than Loma did at 130-135 fought aggressively and didn't get wrecked, so try again.
     
  7. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Depends where the fight is going to be.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That's irrelevant.
     
  9. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Well personally I think Loma would get a super close decision, BUT I think we are still about to see prime Lomachenko. There is no freaking way Loma wins in Vegas against Mayweather at any time. Both guys have really awkward styles and would always go to the decision. That's why I think it's really close and the place would matter.
     
  10. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd could have knocked McGregor out in the first round.
     
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  11. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    @Pimp C plus both fighters are really awesome and it won't be the same as Pacman vs Mayweather. It will be much much closer and harder to decide who wins.
     
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  12. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I’ve seen Floyd get caught repeatedly by the same punch against Augustus. Floyd fought better fighters at 130-135, fought aggressively and didn’t get wrecked? The two opponents that stand out in that run are Corrales and Castillo. Neither are truly elite and Castillo beat him. Corrales was a perfect style and was draining hard for the division. The fight after that (Hernandez) Floyd got beat up. I’ll excuse him a bit for his fragile hands but if he was a defensive wizard like you claim it wouldn’t matter.

    I swear people haven’t actually seen Floyd’s earlier fights when they talk about them, Floyd has never been anywhere near unbeatable. Some claim he’s the ATG at 130 when he didn’t beat anyone significant, and he wasn’t considered a pound for pound fighter until much later. The second he moved up to 140 Corley rocked his world.

    I don’t think Loma has proved he is decisively better at 130-135 yet because he has only been at 130 to this point. The Walters win is the equivalent of the Corrales win. The Martinez knockout is far more devastating than anything Floyd ever produced against a world level opponent. Rigondeaux was small for the weight class but clearly more skilled than anyone Floyd ever fought. Then you factor in how dominant Lomachenko has been against his opponents, versus Floyd’s fights around that weight class... I think it’s clear who the superior boxer is at 130. And I don’t know where this myth of the ‘aggressive Floyd at 130’ comes from. Maybe relatively speaking, compared to his ultra defensive performances later in his career. He’s never been a Durán or a Lomachenko.
    At 135... it remains to be seen. If Lomachenko can beat Linares and Garcia then he has clearly passed Floyd at that division as well. Floyd has Castillo (an L and a W) and what else?
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    Beat up? He took 2-3 rounds off when adjusting to the southpaw stance and Hernandez still couldn't do anything to him. One he got back into the fight with one hand he took full control sweeping the last couple of rounds. That there is the mark of a true ATG. Loma hasn't faced adversity like this is his career yet.
     
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  14. gold

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    Ok sharmut
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You claim people haven't seen PBF's earlier fights but the irony of it is you haven't seen them. If you did you would realize that PBF has been in the top 10 P4P since his win over Genaro Hernandez in 98.:deal: Also Chico was on the top 10 P4P list ranked ahead of PBF when they fought. JLC was also highly rated as well, who despite your lie he beat 2x and he's better than anyone Loma has fought. PBF looked more dominant against a prime guy in Chico than Loma did against a old and small Rigo.

    He damn near shut Corley out and knocked him down 2x WTF you talking about?

    In what world do you live in where Walters is = to the Chico win? I wasn't aware that Walters was a top 10 P4P fighter when Loma beat him like Chico was when PBF beat him. Walters has never been on any top 10 P4P list.

    Who the **** is Roman Martinez? His only claim to fame is being able to do what Loma couldn't do and that was beat Orlando Salido. PBF's clinic over Chico is light years more impressive than Loma's in over Martinez, hell his clinic over Gernaro Hernandez is as well.

    Rigo was dragged up 2 weights was 37 years old which is old as hell for a guy his size he was past his best. He wasn't more skilled than anyone PBF fought he wasn't prime his skills and athletic ability eroded stop trying to tell yourself that to help yourself sleep better at night. This was not a prime Rigo fighting Loma at 118, stop it.

    A superior boxer to PBF would not lose to a guy with 12 loses period. A superior boxer to PBF would figure out Salido sooner and dominate him. You don't have a leg to stand on here.

    If Loma wants to be greater than PBF he has a **** load of work to do. For starters he must move up to 135 fight Garcia move to 140 fight the best fighters there then move to 147 and fight guys like Thurman, Spence or Crawford, if he does all that then I'll say he's greater than PBF, until then he's not.
     
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