Deontay Wilder losing muscle every single fight since starting VADA testing

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  1. navigator

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    Relaxed (not flexed), and allowing for different posture and angles, I'm not seeing much difference.

    [url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/03/14/3DEB10D400000578-4278554-image-a-17_1488549885917.jpg[/url]
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    In any case, I think too much is being read into the lighter weight. Wilder looked like Wilder to me. I'm not seeing a concentration camp zombie in his place.
     
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  2. Vykus

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    I've seen him fight at +225 and -215. He's a much better fighter the higher his weight. 235 would do him wonders. As I said, at 235 he looks lean, mean, healthy and strong.
     
  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    a week ago end of feb in lead up to joshua v parker fight

    The [url]Matchroom kingpin[/url] (hearn )said: “We pay something like £30k every fight, to make sure the fighters are tested.

    “As soon as the contract is signed, that testing is under way, that’s WADA. We optionally sign up for that

    “We are also with UKAD, through the BBBofC and that’s 365 days a year, random whereabouts testing.

    “The last three or four fights we have been test eight times in camp by UKAD and WADA over a 12-week period.

    thats 32 tests in comp and what 8 tests at a guess by ukad out of comp in 2 years so about 40 in all
    so boxers are getting a lot of testing now and as i said should not be accused unless caught.
     
  4. Jim Jeffries

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    Wasn't Wilder like 220 when he fought against Stiverne the first time? I don't know what his pre-fight weigh in was for that fight, though. He just used movement and jabbed all fight pretty much.

    He's probably been sick and lost a little bit more weight than normal. Which makes more sense to me.
     
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  5. navigator

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    The last time we saw him below 215, he was greener than grass. Is 229 the heaviest Wilder's ever checked in at? Brutal finish notwithstanding, he didn't look that great against Artur Szpilka, although a certain amount of credit should go to Szpilka for that.
     
  6. GlaukosTheHammer

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    No, not at all bud. I'm suggesting he had been trying to put on weight purely for looks and abandoned the idea because he didn't like the results.

    I don't now nor have I ever had any expectation as to what Wilder does or should weigh. I really don't care honestly, I just don't think vada's got anything to do with his weight. I think timing is one of the weakest connections a person can make, vada is too large to see this in only one fighter, and Wilder never approached weight as if it was something more than aesthetics for the camera.
     
  7. James Smith

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    You would have a point if he stayed the same weight, he did not he lost 14 3/4 pounds of solid hard earned muscle as soon as he started VADA testing.
     
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    219. And he did generally better in that bout than he did 10 lbs heavier against Szpilka (though, as I said above, Szpilka should get some credit for that).
     
  9. MVC!

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    Which is, of course, not a point at all. You lose weight if you cut down the bulk. Nice try though.
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    people will be coming here after the fight making threads saying see i told you wilders stratergy
    to come in light was the right one i was right.

    thats if he wins

    if he loses the threads will start /wilder was clearly dehydrated and sick and had esbolla disease in the lead up to the fight had no strength or power and was clearly an ill man / in the rematch he will come in at 230 and wipe the floor with him.

    hindsight is always so easy.
     
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  11. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wrong Joshua did do VADA testing for Klitschko.

    Source VADA website [url]http://vada-testing.org/anthony-joshua/[/url]

    It says we welcome back Joshua for VADA testing for Parker fight. "welcome back" being he had done it before, and been at a career high weight.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

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    Why do some have a problem with this,it’s just a fact I reckon.
     
  13. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's exactly the point i'm making in this thread. Keep up.
     
  14. MVC!

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    Nope, your point was he stopped doing roids, and of course with no evidence whatsoever.

    Nice try though, now show some evidence other than heresay.

    You have no disproved my point at all. All he did was simply stopped bulking to build for speed. Procede, brah.
     
  15. James Smith

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    "Hearsay" Means a rumour. There is circumstantial evidence Wilder was on PED's, as I have already pointed out. Going from your last comment this is a little over your head.
     
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