The most suspect tale-of-the-tape measurements?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    First that come to mind for me are Liston's 84-inch reach and the torso measurements of guys like Ali and Holyfield who kept the same chest, bicep, neck, and waist #s etc. for most of their heavyweight careers, despite obviously packing on significant mass.
     
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  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree his arms were longer than Frank Brunos according to the ToT whom had huge dimensions and his fists being 15" fists I know it may be possible but I saw Andre the Giants fist and according to the measurement it was smaller than 15" which seems incredible and improbable.....I have yet to see his fists in true comparison
     
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  3. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Sonny liston had a 84 inch reach because his arms were a little longer than usual for a 6'1 man, but his hands were gigantic, bigger hands than carnera even, those long fingers is why his reach was as long as it was, otherwise his arms would dangle by his feet
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    His reach was listed as 81 in some fights, and that seems more realistic to me.
     
  5. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield somehow grew from the 6’1 that he had been since the start of his career to 6’2” 1/2 when he moved up to heavyweight.
     
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  6. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It has nothing of rare because evander used HGH HORMONE. One thing is for sure.he was over 6'2 or 6"2 at hw. I am 6"1 1/2 and he was taller than me
     
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  7. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. Accordind to these stats, Holyfield had the same exact measurements when he was 205 lbs and 217 lbs.
     
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  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We are talking height here not head size......
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Alan Minter at 5'9 seems even more obviously bogus (in the other direction).
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Battling Jim Johnson 5'9"

    Sonny Liston 16" fist

    Jess Willard 10" wrist

    Barbados Joe Walcott 5'1"

    Rocky Marciano 14" biceps

    Rocky Marciano 16 3/4" neck

    Tommy Hearns 15" biceps
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Not convinced Fury is 6'9" he didn't look it vs Wilder or Next to Price
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I don't trust any of them other than height, though even that is often obviously off..

    I suspect a big thing is probably a lack of standards for the measurements.
     
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  13. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Always wondered if Hagler was really a fair bit shorter than the 5'9" he was listed at. Minter, supposedly 5'9" himself, seemed to have at least two-three inches on him when they fought, and I remember seeing a picture of Hagler with Qawi (who is listed at 5'5", maybe 5'6")...Marvin seemed only an inch taller at best. Marvin was solidly-built and had a great-looking physique as a Middle, like he was carved from marble, but in terms of height he might have been a little on the short side for a 160 pounder.

    Also not convined that Wilder is his listed 6'7". He looked pretty much identical in height to Audley Harrison (6'5") at their weigh in, and I seem to recall an old issue of Boxing News (from 2012-ish, maybe someone else remembers) which profiled Wilder and said something along the lines of, 'Six feet five inches, and sixteen stone of solid muscle.' Think 6'5" might be closer to the truth.
     
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  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The tape never lies but the bloke holding it does......
     
  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see no way Liston had a 16' fist.... come on