I'm no longer convinced that a 1974 George Foreman would just plow through Wilder after last night

I still view him as a glass cannon. He's likely to lose to someone he shouldn't (hence his team's cautious matchmaking), but he can upset guys outside his paygrade with that nuclear right hand. He's must-see TV for me- kinda like a modern day Tommy Morrison.

 

This is how I see the situation.

 

Except Wilder would KO Morrison within 3 rounds. Joshua would KO Morrison within 1 round.

 

I just don't understand this line of thinking at all.

Who is Wilder going to fight who has no business knocking him out?

I'm being serious.

Every fight he's had for the past five years (even before he won a belt) people have said he's one punch away from getting stopped. Nobody did.

So now who has no business knocking him out? Joshua? Parker? Ortiz? Fury? That's the level he's at now.

If he was going to get knocked out by someone who has "no business knocking him out" that would've happened already.

He's at the point now where any heavyweight can beat any other heavyweight.

There's no shame in Ortiz or any of the other top heavyweights getting knocked out by Wilder. Just like there's no shame in Wilder getting knocked out by the other top heavyweights.

Joshua's been floored. Ortiz was floored multiple times last night. Wlad was floored about 20 times. Ali was floored. Foreman was floored. Frazier was floored. Holyfield was floored. Tyson was floored. Lewis was floored. Louis was floored. Schmeling was floored. They were all floored (except Vitali, I believe.)

Are they "glass cannons" too?

Wilder's 40-0, 39 KOs. He's no glass cannon.

Instead of people always questioning his chin, why don't people talk about how he broke his hand and tore his bicep in the same fight and still scored a KO win? How many heavyweight champs have pulled that off while going undefeated?

Does that make him glass?

I swear, he might be the toughest heavyweight in the division. If Anthony Joshua's bicep rolled up on him and his hand was broken IN THE SAME FIGHT, and he still scored a ko, would anyone call him SOFT? Or GLASS?

He'd be proclaimed the toughest fighter who ever stepped in a freaking British ring.

But people keep insisting Wilder is soft or fragile. Or glass.

I just think its nonsensical. Honestly.

 

Then it's nonsense to you and it's pointless to debate. Agree to disagree.

 

I'd just be curious to know why you consider him "glass?"

Based on what?

 

Wilder, IMO has earned more credit than he's getting. But on the bright side, 50 years from now, people will be looking back on him with the same reverence as Foreman or Liston

 

I will be a prophet here.

I think that he will generally deliver the goods, but at some point he will loose a bit of focus as everybody does, and then we will see a Grant McCline style knockout.

 

You're gonna give these people indigestion and insomnia, typing like that...

 

I was surprised at how troubled Wilder was by the punches he took in the 7th.
His recovery was prolonged and aided by what appeared to be an Ortiz, who’d run out of steam.

 

Jury still out how far Wilder will go. Similar to Billy Joe Saunders .
After BJS victory against Lemieux people are seeing him in a different
light and a definite threat for top spot in division. Bit premature for him
beating a young Foreman yet and see how he goes against Joshua before
making a clearer judgement.

 

Foreman would crush Wilder please .
He was getting beat up by a boxer in his Forties .
Morrison he might survive the early rounds but I wouldn't bet on it .Morrison was fast with that left hook.

 

Both some powerful hard hitting americans, I'm personally under the impression nobody could beat prime foreman in a toe to toe slug out, but wilder has a better chance than just about anybody, it would probably would look like the Ron Lyle fight

 

Shades of Mac Foster here. Wilder doesn't belong in the same sentence as Foreman as far as I'm concerned

 

Lol Wilder wasn't hit by many flush punches by Ortiz. Ortiz is also 48 years old now. Ortiz is actually lighter than George Foreman. Foreman was a natural 230 pound man who lost weight to down lower. Ortiz is a natural 215 to 220 pound man who comes into the fight overweight.

Ortiz is way slower than old George Foreman never mind the younger one. He also has way worse stamina. Foreman got tired in the Ali fight by throwing tons of punches of against a top level fighter. Ortiz was gassed after a few rounds and he wasn't throwing many punches. Foreman's defense is better than Ortiz. He is better at cutting off the ring. Foreman's chin is tried and true. Foreman fought from the age of 38 to 48 in his comeback and didn't go down to even monster punchers like Tommy Morrison.

Wilder proved nothing by beating Ortiz. Unless you consider beating a 50 year old over weight man who has yet to beat any to fighters like Ortiz something to be proud of.

Guys like Foreman, Tyson, Tua, Ibeabuchi, Lewis, and tons of other fighters would still knock out Wilder without much problem.