Joshua-Wilder-Fury

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How do the 3 big name heavies fare against each other?

  1. Wilder>both

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  2. Fury>both

    20 vote(s)
    54.1%
  3. AJ>both, Wilder>Fury

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  4. AJ>both, Fury>Wilder

    6 vote(s)
    16.2%
  5. Wilder>AJ>Fury, but Fury>Wilder

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  6. Wilder>Fury>AJ, but AJ>Wilder

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. AJ>Wilder>Fury, but Fury>AJ

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. AJ>Fury>Wilder, but Wilder>AJ

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Fury>Wilder>AJ, but AJ>Fury

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Fury>AJ>Wilder, but Wilder>Fury

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
  1. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fantasy trio of the moment.
    I know Fury has a long way to go to make it reality but should he come back to full fitness, he is undoubtedly a large part of this equation.
    With all 3 fully fit, an extremely confident Wilder, a slimmer AJ than what he was for Klitschko, and an uncle Peter trained (he would probably have Peter back by the time these fights come around) Tyson Fury, how do the 3 potential fights all go?

    For me, Wilder is an easy night for Fury, while AJ and Fury is almost too close to call, but probably edging Fury for me, with AJ and Wilder a real 50/50.

    Who ya got?

    If you think Wilder or Fury will beat the other two, then just list who would win the third fight, the poll only gave me ten options
     
  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    All at their best I think I think:

    Fury beats Wilder as he negates every advantage Wilder enjoys (reach, height etc) , can switch stances plus I think he has the ability to avoid the right hand for 12 rounds.

    Fury - AJ still going to go with Fury just but the difference AJ's boxing is alot better and has a few more strings in his bow to make it more competitive..

    Wilder - AJ hard one again but slightly favour Wilder only because I can't see AJ avoiding the right for 12 rounds..
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is Fury even a licensed boxer at this point? I consider him retired until he actually steps into a ring again.
     
  4. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with pretty much all of that except I'd probably just pick AJ over Wilder, although I find it a very hard one to call
     
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    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    Fury at his best beats both of them, Joshua probably beats Wilder. The latter part of which is a parameter missing from the poll, so I guess Fury>Both.

    I'm not sure Fury has a "best" though any more.
    What about his past performances makes you think Wilder can avoid Joshua's right (or left for that matter) for 12 rounds himself though? Three times now we've seen Wilder outboxed by slower and shorter opposition before his power bailed him out, his defense is still highly questionable.
     
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    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I have no doubt AJ can and will hit Wilder but I think Wilder only has to hit once where AJ needs a combination.. The fact AJ got tagged by Wlad just gives me the feeling Wilder could too but he would see it because it will come form some spastic angle... Very close atm..

    If anyone works out how to take Wilder right hand out of the fight it will be comedy gold...
     
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    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We all know Ortiz can bang, but AJ still hits harder, with more volume and is stronger/able to hold you in place or slap you around.

    AJ in round 7 would of had Wilder out of there in the first 10 seconds of him being stunned.
     
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    Why no Parker ?

    Undefeated titleholder who I would give a 50/50 chance against wilder or Joshua

    To hell with fury
     
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    Fury is a lost cause. He shouldn't have a seat at the table.
     
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    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's utter bull**** how Joseph Parker is completely ignored, its mainly threads like this which make me hope he hurts AJ.

    All these big match conversations and threads completely ignore an undefeated and legitimate title holder for an overweight coke head who has failed PED tests.
     
  11. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I think Fury is too much of an unknown quantity at this point.

    The version of Fury that beat Wlad would beat anyone, but that Fury is gone. Who knows who we'll get back. Certainly a worse version, but how much worse?

    Between Joshua and Wilder, Joshua is better. But with Wilder's go for broke/knockout-focused style, he has a very good chance of putting Joshua down.
     
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    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    50/50, you're a joker, he already lost to Hughie Fury, that's why he's not here.

    That doesn't really keep in line with the point of the thread. The question is... If he is the same when he comes back.

    You obviously didn't watch his loss to Hughie then. It'd be absolutely hilarious to see what Tyson would do with him, if he can't even close the distance on his little cousin.

    "Threads like this" don't rule him out of beating AJ. I think he has a chance, albeit not as much of one as you seem to.

    The point of the thread is that these are the three that boxing is talking about as the big 3 names. As had already been explained to you, and it's not my fault that that's the case, it's just how the world is.
    I thought Luis Ortiz had a 60/40 chance of beating Wilder, and still wouldn't have included him in the thread even despite that had it been before the fight. So don't go jumping to conclusions and making assumptions on things that have not been said. (Although there is good reason not to include Parker anyway, due to his should be loss to Hughie).

    The question was if he is the same/near it.
     
  13. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    My point was that it's just impossible to tell at this point.

    I don't think even Fury himself knows.

    We'll have to see him in the ring against live opposition.
     
  14. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To make a decision based on the assumption/condition that he IS the same? No, no we don't
     
  15. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    You're right. I didn't read your original post well enough.
     
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