What were you more impressed by, joshuas win over klitchko or furys win over wladamir

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  1. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua knocked him out, but was dropped and almost knocked out by wladamir.

    Fury didn't drop wladamir, but seemed to toy with him.

    Some say klitchko from the joshua fight was even more shot then the fury fight. Who do you think looked more impressive against wlad, and do you think the wladamir that fought fury was stronger than the one that fought a.j?
     
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  2. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder's win over Ortiz
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Definitely Joshua's win over Klitschko, who is an ATG heavyweight. Overweight, out-of-shape Ortiz has never won a single belt.

    Wlad didn't appear to be himself against Fury (with his girlfriend having postpartum mental problems). But he was fully focused against Joshua, although obviously somewhat faded with age.
     
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  4. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ all day! Fury’s fight should of been a NC for not boxing at all, worst fight in the history of championship boxing, the fans was the biggest losers on that fight.
     
  5. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Almost getting knocked out doesn't usually fare well compared to rather easily and comfortably beating that same opponent. Why would it here?

    To put it further into perspective, AJ v Wlad would not have even happened had Tyson Fury not beaten Wladimir.
    Don't confuse excitement for impressiveness, of course AJ's was much more exciting, but certainly not on the same level as Fury's.

    One reason being the boxing side, the other, perhaps even more importantly, being mentally. Noone in the world of boxing thought Wladimir Klitschko was beatable for themselves nor anyone else in the division....except Tyson Fury and his team. Evidenced by the fact that absolutely noone else (who was an actual contender) would have taken that fight in Germany, none did. If we're completely honest, Anthony Joshua would not have/not have been allowed to go out to Germany, where everything is in Wladimir's favour.

    Anthony Joshua on the night of his, he still fought and beat Wladimir Klitschko and don't get me wrong, that's damn impressive and it ended any doubts I had the he is the man in this division. But no matter what anyone says, it didn't have the same aura to it as Wladimir Klitschko THE MAN in his own back yard, where he'd based his dominance over a decade. And going there as a huge underdog with pretty much noone but yourself and team believing you have a chance, to pull it off.

    For someone who has had a tough time mentally since, Tyson's mental state prior and going into that fight is as impressive as I've ever seen from a fighter.
    Even after the fight, despite obviously the in ring announcement where they all went crazy (that was probably relief because the chances of the cards not going his way in Germany were probably high). If you watch any footage in the dressing room after it set in, it was barely excitement, more, "We told you so, none of us are surprised, only the rest of you are" was very much the attitude. It's the night I became a lifelong fan, whatever happens from here I'll always admire him for it.

    Even if I am extremely disappointed in what has happened since.
     
  6. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Fury schooled Wlad.

    Joshua went life and death with an older Wlad.

    Do the math.
     
  7. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Naaah, don’t do the maths, watch the fights!

    Joshua fought a remotivated and fired up WK while Fury fought a bloke that looked like he’d had enough of boxing and had a world of distractions on his mind.

    Joshua v Klitschko by a mile.
     
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  8. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously, Fury's was way more convincing.

    Ignoring the fact that Joshua fought an even older Klitschko, based off both performances you can tell that Tyson Fury would be able to repeat that win all but 10/10 times they fought - it was a dominant display.

    AJ's was more a 5/10 win, it seriously looked like a 50:50 fight all the way through and the way the coin landed in that one happened to be on AJ's side but Klitschko almost managed it.

    This BS about Klitschko not being motivated, seriously. There is no such thing as a "not motivated Klitschko".
     
  9. Heavyrighthand

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    Joshua, easily the most impressive

    For that fight, wlad was ultra prepared, obsessed with redeeming himself. Much more aggressive and dangerous, too. And Joshua TKOed him


    In the Fury fight, hardly anything was landed by either fighter



    no comparison, whatsoever
     
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  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Fury damn near shut down a Wlad who was undefeated for 10 years. Fury did a better job against him. You could make the argument that Wlad had things on his mind, but then again Joshua faced an older Wlad and was more past prime than the one Fury faced, and to top it off, Joshua went life and death with him.
     
  11. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So bizarre how many people on here who follow boxing so much can't see what Tyson did to Wlad in the ring (this goes for other fights where someone supposedly looked like they "weren't motivated")... I am completely sure the Wlad who fought Fury was at least as dangerous as the one that fought AJ.

    Lets be clear, I'm not a fan of Tyson Fury. I'm just calling it the way I see it.

    I'd much rather AJ be the better fighter... if anything is going to show I am not biased - this would be it.
     
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  13. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    From a technical stand point you have to say Fury's, but I personally feel the gap between them that day was massively down to Wlad's poor decision making rather than Fury's execution or skill. The vast majority of fighters will eventually come up against an opponent they simply have no business out-boxing, and against them they have to throw caution to the wind and let their hands go. For Wlad that was Fury, and despite that Wlad failed to let his hands go until it was way too late and ultimately paid the price for being so timid.

    Stylistically I believe Joshua and Wilder (despite both being technically inferior to the legendary Ukrainian) have a better chance against Fury than Wlad ever did simply because they won't wait 11 rounds before they start looking for the hail Mary KO. Wlad displayed a crippling mental weakness that night and Fury won't be able to rely on that advantage against Joshua or Wilder; they have both displayed (against Wlad and Ortiz respectively) the heart and grit needed to stop a guy they can't outbox. Granted neither of them did it against a guy as elusive as Fury and for that reason I'd still favour the big gypsy over them, but I'm very confident they'll apply enough pressure to make sure Fury has to throw more than five punches to win any given round.
     
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  14. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Agree. AJ Wlad was much more fun to watch, but Fury's win was the much more impressive.
     
  15. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Fury beating Wlad all the way, yes Wlad did not appear totally on form, but Fury befuddled him, presented as an opponent that Wlad did not have the beating of.

    Fury was focused and unorthodox, on that night Furys mind was strong, sadly in the months after that was lost.
     
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