Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This.
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yall know Canelo is my man and 50 grand but I can't ride with his excuse on this matter.
     
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  3. fistsof steel

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    Are you Adelaide Byrd.??
     
  4. oldcanvasback

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    Michael Montero on the Canelo drug test is interesting -
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  5. PaddyGarcia

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    Stripping naked at the weigh in really isn't that unusual. And the Floyd fight was quite some time ago. I'm more referring to his recent run of dipping up and down weights. There's nothing wrong with it and on its own there's nothing to really be noted, I'm just saying with the context of testing positive for a fat burner that this information suddenly becomes a little more interesting, that's all.
     
  6. Birmingham

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    He’s taking the money GGG, from a business point of view he would be a thick FOCK not too. That’s what every man aims for when he starts his career in boxing. Out of interest what would you advise G to do ?
     
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  7. gmurphy

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    Yes vada have acted unethically again they should not have commented saying that the levels of clenbutarol are in line with meat contamination. Its not there place to say it. They are acting un ethically again to protect clenelo.
    Also The levels don't seem to be in line with meat contamination unless he was being breast fed by a cow who was being pumped full of clenbutarol

    vadas director has acted unethically before in the povetkin case, the court chastised her over it, now they are coming out to protect clenelo unethically
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

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    I believe the full VADA statement finishes on the line "further investigation is needed to make a final determination", which was omitted from the GBP statement for what it's worth
     
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  9. gmurphy

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    That's fair enough but the lab shouldn't be playing defense for clenelo, whether its in line with meat contamination or not is arbitrary.
    If someone got caught with a lot of money and they couldn't fully explain where it came from the police statement whouldnt read ' the level of undocumented cash found is in line with what you would expect to find in someones personal savings kept at the home'.

    The people investigating you arent supposed to be giving you an out.
     
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  10. Birmingham

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    This ! It looks like they are helping him.
     
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  11. shadow111

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    well it doesn't sound like you're all too happy with vada and their director. but yet you're all in when it comes to the results of their drug tests, or at least when it comes to canelo's test. can i ask how can you be so confident in the result of the test that the lab administers when you have such issue with the ethics of the lab's director?

    wouldn't that be like rooting for a sports team while hating the team's coach?
     
  12. gmurphy

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    Im not tbh but since there playing defnese for clenelo you would hardly expect them to **** him over causing him a failed test. With povetkin the powers were against him so its possible they could have ****ed him over.
    Also golden boy straight came out with there excuse say 'ya it was contaminated meat' so they hardly had to tamper with results when golden boy agree he did have clenbutatol in his system.

    Im not rooting for the lab at all i couldn't give a crap about them but they have acted unethically defending clenelo and unethically making assumptions about povetkin that went against scientific evidence they ignored
     
  13. shadow111

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    i'm not sure that's the best example you could possibly use to make your point, and i'm not sure how the director making that statement is playing defense for canelo or giving him an out.

    i don't know about you, but i'd rather have someone who actually oversees drug testing procedures and has experience with test results commenting on whether a sample is consistent with meat contamination than someone who isn't.
     
  14. gmurphy

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    Saying its in line with meat contamination is arbitrary , it has nothing to do with them at all.
    All they do is test and leave it at that

    Did they come out when povetkin was 10 times under the allowed wada limit and say 'he is under the required amount andit is in line with what you would expect from someone who had taken the drug when it was legal'

    No they ****ing did not even though it would have been the right thing to do

    That's a direct example of their bias and how they acted unethically twice
     
  15. shadow111

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    The GBP statement cited what the director said about the result being consistent with contaminated meat. GB didn't make a statement saying that it was contaminated meat or used it as an excuse.

    look i'm trying to understand how vada acted unethically regarding povetkin, but as far as simply stating that canelo's result was only trace amounts and consistent with contaminated meat seems pretty relevant to the story.

    you're saying that they are defending canelo by saying that, i don't see how you can reach that conclusion. it sounds like you are rooting really hard against canelo.

    i think i'd trust what the lab director of vada says when it comes to interpreting a drug test then a golovkin fan on the internet with an agenda against canelo.
     
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