Muhammad Ali, who did he actually fight?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    But I asked you for the ages, heights and weight of these Sullivan opponents. Can you share them?

    Joe Goss
    George Rooke
    Steve Taylor
    James Dalton
    Jimmy Elliot
    Tug Wilson
    Charlie Mitchell
    Dominick McCaffery
    Frank Herald
    Alf Greenfield
    William Samuels
    John Laflin ("hybrid rules")

    There was no one close to Holyfield in the 1880's. You might as well race a Ford model T car vs a NACAR, that would be a better analogy.

    But something tells me Gary Cornish, at 25-2, ranked 79th in the world by box rec would have a winning record vs. the above men perhaps being at the very top of the list. Cornish was 21-0 until he meet Joshua, the lone man to stop him.
     
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    Ali arguably fought the best competition. Liston, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Foreman, Quarry, and Lyle to name a few.

    The only fight he would not offer is a re-match to Foreman.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    They didn't go from bareknuckle to modern boxing. Bareknuckle itself had been revised a lot. Then there was LPR (bareknuckle), LPR with gloves, and queensberry, but with fighters and officials all fairly used to bareknuckle. And the gloves weren't modern gloves, you could grab much more with them, they had separate thumbs, they were maybe 2oz or 4 oz.

    I'll do it if you post a picture of youself with a muddy boot on your head, while sitting in a bath of syrup, holding a sign with both our usernames.

    No. Just no. Believe it or not, we have not turned into a race of supermen in the last 100 years. If anything the average person is just getting worse athletically.

    No, nothing tells you that. It's based on nothing. You know nothing about them, which is why you are asking for their height age and weight. And you couldn't even seem to comprehend a simple analogy.

    This is like talking to a brick wall, well two of them, and this is just getting tedious. Bye.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    This is about which 10 round opponents he fought in 10 round fights.

    10 round boxing is really a different sport. Different length, different number of rounds, different number of breaks.
     
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    Wait, I thought you said bye? If the rounds were 12 or 15, Ali has more of a chance of getting a stoppage. You look very foolish here, asking Muhammad Ali, who did he actually fight?

    My suggestion to you is to go back to video games Bit. You won't answer my questions, and when you ask who did Ali fight, well...

    My best guess is you'll be banned, In fact if I had to guess you were in the past. Now watch how this works, no more time will I spend with you.
     
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    You know he's simply a front/alt for another character .. whatever , it's getting boring. Nothing changes .. Klompton's a sociopath, Janitor a last word freak and the usual assorted trolls ... thankfully the private sites offer much better content, dialogue and exclusivity.
     
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    Ali was so bad.....he couldn't beat his 2016 self if he was in his prime!!!
     
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    Ali would rather fight a pack of angry German shepherds than fight Briggs.....who wouldn't????
     
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    Like Clark Kent and Superman???
     
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    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I agree Bit's a front/alt. Not paying more attention to him anymore,

    I view Klompton pragmatically. Sometimes he has really good information, other times if you don't agree with him, he'll make a personal insult often to a person he never meet, which is he good at probably via experience.

    Janitor is okay by me. He loves all the old timers, but if you argue con, he'll disagree 9 times out of 10 even if the data is on your side. But at least he keeps it clean.
     
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    Foreman said in an interview that Ali called his home in the late 70s (he also said he didnt know how Ali got his number) and after complimenting him for a few minutes offered Foreman a rematch on the condition that he'd beat Ken Norton again. Foreman declined as he felt he was done with boxing for good. Luckily for Ali, Shavers picked off Norton.
     
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    You do realize there have been changes since the Queensberry rules don't you? Is Johnson not a champion because there was no neutral corner? Do you separate Unified Rules from Queensberry?
     
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    If you think that is remotely on the same scale as throwing to the floor, spiking with shoes, bare knuckle punching, hair pulling and rounds based on falls opposed to three minutes a round with sixty seconds between then there is little I can say to you on it. To me it is a completely different sport.
     
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    I know Klompton for years. He's always been the same. You can't disagree with him without a personal attack thrown in your direction. There is no grey with him, black or white. It's a bore and he acts like a bully but cannot take it.

    I agree Janitor keeps it clean and that is to his credit but he's a death by a thousand cuts guy, hangs on the board like a sniper program plus the way he lost it over my Sullivan post diminished him in my eyes .. prior to that really had no opinion of him ..

    the other guy will be gone soon and back again as another identity for sure .. LOL .. like I said, same old same old ..
     
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    Clearly you win the Dingbat of the year award,,,,,hands down.
     
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