Who else goes 5-1-0 over Liston, Frazier & Foreman

could lewis beat frazier 3 times and take the loss to foreman?

i think it's a good fight for lennox and that's more likely than anyone doing it the way ali did. i think holmes has the best chance at that.

 

I just dont see holmes going 3-0 against frazier. He might beat him once but its just an ugly match up. Against foreman its 50/50 i wouldnt be confident betting.

Vitali could outlast foreman in a brawl in zaire due to his stamina but then again, im not sure he could handle the sheer heat of that climate. Hes pretty pale, not to mention heavy and flat footed. Speaking of heat, fighting smokin joe in manilla would be hell too, especially on his mid 30's. He might take at least on L being in there against a moivated frazier staying on him like glue for one last hurrah.

Vitali probably loses to liston, yes i said it. Liston could jab a taller guys head off when he was way past his prime against wepner. And considerinh vitalis weakness to cuts and lack of defense and head movement...it would end pretty bloody.

Wlad could beat frazier due to his annoying style and lewis of course could do the same. They could get past liston with a very cautious approach and timing him. But being in their 30's with 10+ years of ring wear and tear against foreman...i dont like those odds.

Joe Louis could bomb foreman out. I see him losing to frazier the first time. Joe hinself said he hated swarmers. He could win the rematches since he always did better in return bouts but i wouldnt bet a single cent on manilla. Frazier was out for blood. A prime 20 year old louis kos a slightly old liston mre often than not but id be biting my nails due to his chin and reach. He could either go 5-1-0 like ali or go 3-2 or even 3-3.

Holyfield...takes at least 1 L to Frazier no doubt. Somebody might literally die in that trillogy lol. If he foolishly goes after a younger foreman like he did in the 90's he gets steamrolled, but if he boxes him he has a chance of replicating Alis record.

Man this is a tought task for anybody. Maybe chris Byrd lol? He could fight ultra lame overly cautious, jab, run, clinch, and block his way to boring UDs or SDs over these three. He kept in shape between fights and usually had top notch cardio.

 

Lewis and Vitali.

 

Oh My !!
Im off to bed laughing.
Akinwande pops up in a lot of this dude's posts .?

 

Lennox was my first reaction to the OP.
bit of a longshot.
Ironically i think he struggles more with the early stuff , than later.

 

Blackhercules should rewrite the history of boxing as he has 3 ATG heavyweights not being worth a sh**!!

 

Frazier is H2H horrible overrated via single victory against a mover with very limited power. The same might be true with Liston, defeating the same Cruiserweight twice with a huge weight advantage, having a weight advantage in a era of 190-200 pounders.

Who could make it?
Lewis, Wladimir, Joshua, maybe Wilder, Tyson, Tua (loses probably to Foreman), Ibeabuchi, Bowe, maybe Holyfield and Vitali (Foreman is tough). There might be some more going 5-1, but its close in the time frame....

 

The two L's would be the only guys i'd give any consideration to at all.

 

Who did 37-0 (34 KO) Foreman beat before he bounced Frazier up and down through the ring? Even for the infinite mindcuffed nostalgic idiocy on this forum it should be easy to acquire some similarities....

 

Oh for sure!!!

 

Well, I think Louis could. He could beat the old Liston of 1964-65 when he was 21 & 22, beat Frazier when he was 28, and 32. of course his career was split by the war, but assuming it wasn't, I think a 30 year old Louis would be favored over a 29 year old Frazier. The toughest go for him would be Foreman when he was 31, but even that wouldn't be an insurmountable task.

Of the later champions, I think Lewis and Vitali Klitschko would have a good chance of sweeping Liston and Frazier, and Foreman would certainly not be beyond reach. I personally think both would sweep these opponents due to the tremendous advantage in size. Wlad's weak jaw makes him more problematical, but I think he very easily could go 5-1, beating up an old Liston and sweeping Frazier.

Holmes, Holyfield, and even Tyson have to be given good shots at going 5-1.

 

I think I'd decline to bet on such a long-term Accumulator. Even Louis and Lewis run it close against the odds here but, they've a chance. Elder Louis might drop a decision against the Manila Frazier. Foreman could be the boogeyman for both. After all, he was supposed to be for Ali.

Holmes, although a consideration, runs into trouble, trying to get past Frazier, even once, IMO. He has a better chance of beating Foreman but, like the others, that's a 50/50 bout, IMO.