Canelo and Holyfield on steroids?

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  1. juhave

    juhave Member Full Member

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    They didn't really test for steroids in the 90s. So it is obvious that everyone was using that time. They still are but they need to be more cautious now.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Evan Fields.
     
  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. All top athletes making big money take something. way too much money on the line to not exploit every opportunity to be successful.

    Also, even before athletes started chemically enhancing themselves it was and still is fairly common for top athletes to bend the rules as much as possible to gain any sort of advantage.

    Angelo Dundee years ago mentioned if you aren't bending rules here in there you won't make it to the top anywhere. If the ref lets you get away with something and it works keep doing it.
     
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  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair. Mike Tyson was on the opposite of PEDs, or performance detracting drugs, like pot or ****. He did get way out of control without Cus around, resorting to a whizzer of all things. Hell Lance Armstrong even used a whizzer lol albeit for different drugs like EPO and roids.
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson was juiced off his tits throughout his career, don't you worry about that.
     
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  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even when he was 200lbs at 16yrs old?? Is this the same **** Pac was on at 95lbs at 16?
     
  7. juhave

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    Most probably yes.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    They both probably were/are, like many people in sports.

    Canelo got caught, and there was that whole Evan Fields thing. Holyfield’s symptoms in the 1st Moorer fight were said to be consistent with HGH use, which sounds plausible. Testing was very lax, there’s probably a lot of big name fighters in that era who took PEDs that haven’t been publicly linked to any scandals
     
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  9. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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  10. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Every modern heavyweight is on roids or has used in the past.

    Most boxers in general are on some type of PED. Don't be naive.
     
  11. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's possible if you have no muscle mass whatsoever at the start and end up getting fat aswell. Not if you're already 200 lbs and muscular.
     
  12. Fighting Fungus

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    I would be willing to bet that Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather are also on steroids.
     
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  13. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Oh come on! There was a lot of identity theft back in those days. I believe both Evan and Evander are victims of the same scam artists. :jaja-no:
     
  14. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Neither was ever caught but im convinced both took peds. FlIVd got caught red handed diluting.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s quite simple,one only has to look at their body type,it’s about as unnatural as one can get and I’d go as far to say that it’s impossible to achieve naturally.
    Chael Sonnen UFC Steroid user and admitted juice head said that he can tell who’s using and what just after looking at their bodies.
    Some of the pics of those UFC guys before VADA cane on the scene like HGH Vitor Belfort compared to when VADA were leaning on him are So different you’d swear it was someone else.
    The only reason Canelos done it is so he could go in with Golovkin and not get knocked out,his neck,head,shoulders and torso are as solid as anyone I’ve seen in the sport and that includes Mike Tyson.