Are boxers under 140 pounds now invisible again to media/fans?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pretty much any fighter under 140 pounds has had trouble attracting a large fanbase. That went away in the late 90's. I think Nasseem Hamed was the first LW or FW that put eyeballs on the TV. And the entire decade of the 2000's was a good time period for the little guys as far as people watching their fights and getting invested in little guys.

    But now I think it's gone back to that way. The only little guy who people care about now is Lomachenko. But even he isn't a big time attraction. People admire his skills, but they clearly want to see somebody like GGG instead.

    Even Floyd Mayweather wasn't a draw until he got to 140 pounds and then especially after he got to 147. They wouldn't put his fights on PPV until he left the low divisions.

    When Santa Cruz fights or Gary Russell (a rarity) fights nobody even gives a ****. At all. If Miguel Berchelt was a MW for example he'd have a pretty good following right now. A seek and destroy fighter. The problem is he fights at 130 pounds.
     
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  2. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's because boxing skills are not appreciated anymore.

    When fans on a boxing forum are seriously comparing Ali and Wilder, it tells us all we need to know.
     
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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    There's not that many stars in boxing. Loma is one of the biggest ones and he's a super feather. Linares Inoue SSR and more big names are below 140.
     
  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    The lower weights are not invisible to people ,it lacks a charismatic character right now.
    Combat sports has historically been about stirring the emotions of the people since the Roman Empire was on top.
    If they can find the guy(s) that have that certain star power then the lower weight classes can capture the attention.
    Naseem Hamed was a once in a lifetime fighter. He is still the richest feather weight ever and he has not boxed in over 16 years
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Comparing Ali and Wilder :facepalm: Surely that was a joke?


    One that sticks in my mind, I'm still not sure if it was a joke, either way it was quite brilliant..

    Anyway, I wasn't directly involved but I was reading this thread in the British and there was another Khan and Brook debate, a few insults flew around and somebody made the usual anti Muslim comment.

    A poster came on and said "what's Khan being a Muslim got to do with it, Brook is a Muslim too".

    So this poster was slaughtered and then he said..

    "If Brook isn't a Muslim, then why does he come to the ring to "Allah the Lights".



    I want to believe I witnessed comedy genius but the sad or funny thing is I'm still not sure it wasn't just stupidity.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Depends. Crawford and Lomachenko have been doing decent numbers since they've been featured on free tv. I imagine a few casuals might know their names. You can't blame them for not knowing Inoue yet. He's only had one fight in the US and that was on subscription television. Gonzalez was just building a following when he toppled off of his perch.

    Guys becoming popular in the US is usually a mix of several factors. Speaking English is a big leg up. That means you can go on radio, television, and appear in movies to hype your fights. You can give more interviews to journalists, talk **** on twitter, etc. Better than that is winning an Olympic gold medal. If people saw you for free covered in glory at the Olympics they are a lot more ready to watch your progress as a professional. It also means you get better backers, trainers, promoters, and get fast tracked to a title then spend even more time in the public eye.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    That is pretty funny. I like how he didn't just one-liner it either. He set you guys up, baited you, when he had that punchline in his pocket the whole time.
     
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  8. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    It depends where you are. In parts of Asia HW boxing isn’t watched, appreciated or followed. It’s seen as bad quality ugly boxing. And in the main I think it is compared to the technically quality of the little guys who give you round after round of “beautiful” boxing.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol couldn’t of put it better myself,that Wilder,Ali post was as ridiculous a post I’ve ever seen I think.
     
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  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. No amount of wins or titles can replace charisma. A charismatic boxing star can also make other boxers established names.
     
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  11. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    With such a lack of exposure for the little guys how would you know who did or didn’t have charisma anyway!?

    Does the new superstar of boxing Canelo have charisma? Really?
     
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  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guys with charisma find ways to get the public's attention. Loma, Mikey Garcia, and Crawford are excellent in the ring, but have zero charisma outside of it.

    Canelo doesn't have any charisma at all. I also don't think Canelo is that much of a mainstream star. His drawing power isn't that great unless he's paired with the right opponent. GGG and JCC jr. helped him produce over 1 million PPV buys.

    Boxing currently lacks a charismatic star, but it'll get one again eventually.
     
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  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah I'm pretty sure it was set up and set up very well.

    It still makes me smile and every time Brook walks out to that song I sing those lyrics, I mean no disrespect but they are now imprinted in my head.
     
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  14. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its true. but really only true for the casuals. real boxing fans just wanna watch boxing.
     
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  15. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Superfly cards have been great, if you do not like them your not a boxing fan!
     
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