Of all three Italian world boxing champs to retire undefeated, which is greatest?

He speaks fluent italian because he lived there for awhile, his father actually moved back. Most italian americans sadly do not speak the language, I actually speak better spanish than italian.

 

I genuinely wondered if he did considering he was european champion. Actually did that happen or did I totally imagine that?

 

You're a funny guy...

 

There is a similar situation in Australia. The dialect spoken there is very different from both standard and all other dialects. They use a lot of "English-like" words there.

Well, technically, those classifications are only regional.

 

util he opens his gob, or walks past a hot woman.

 

wales was brythonic. though some class that itself as celtic.

actual continental celtic influence in britain was limited unless it was brought in by others (Romans etc) The Celts never really invaded us.

Wales is an awesome enough country without needing to sponge off the actual celts, IMHO. I love the place.

 

Yes, considering that "nationalities" are much more recent invention than just cultural or ethnic sense of unity.

I was not agreeing with Forza though, he is very incorrect. In fact, there are no supposed 10 different ethnic groups in Italy (unless he refers to Germans, Greeks etc). The only ethnicity is Italian, and the mentioned north, central, south, Sardinian and other groups are only regional classifications mostly based on different dialects. Even Corsicans, whose region is administratively part of France, are technically Italian by ethnicity, and speak an Italian language, not French.

To my knowledge, it's a different thing in Britain, since the English are not even of a same origin as Irish/Scottish etc. English are originally Germanic, while Irish, Welsh and Scottish are Celtic. In Italy, everyone is Italic.

 

That's right, you are quite good on history IB. Etruscan language was actually non-Indo-European, and therefore not Italic (while for example Sardinian is still Italic, although notably different from standard Italian). However, Etruscans were eventually Romanized/mixed with Romans. They spoke Etruscan less and less, and Latin more, and gradually their identity disappeared in favor of the Roman identity.

I was not referring to the genetic composition, because technically, the more you go into the distant past, the more you can relate everybody in present to everybody in past regardless of present day ethnicity/language/culture. Blond hair/blue eyes is partly, but not exclusively because of the Lombards (well, we do have a whole region called Lombardia though ). Many of the original northern Italic tribes already had an admixture of neighboring Celtic tribes in the ancient times before they were Romanized. Liguri are a good example.

 

Was Rocky Marciano Italian-American?