Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

If Canelo wins, ESB will be a river of tears for weeks, months. Many Golovkin supporters may decide to no longer support boxing at all anymore. Many will hide their heads in shame refusing to accept that Canelo was the better man.

If Golovkin wins, it'll be a 24 / 7 party around here, with posters who said for months that it was impossible for Golovkin to win due to corruption all of a sudden claiming "I told you so".

Pretty much no matter what happens in the rematch, we're guaranteed to have a visceral reaction from the Golovkin legion of fans. If Golovkin wins, extreme trolling will commence. If Canelo knocks Golovkin out, it would only be because Canelo was cheating with Clenbuterol. If Canelo wins a close decision, of course all the judges were paid off by ODLH. Every scenario now has a built-in, ready-to-go excuse.

Whatever the outcome, we're assured of some of the most extreme, emotional reactions to a fight we've ever witnessed in sport from the legion of Golovkin supporters.

 

Extreme and emotional, similar to your irrational defense of clenelo

 

How do you figure? What's more irrational : Jumping to conclusions claiming he definitely cheated without knowing what caused the positive test or taking a wait and see approach?

Obviously jumping to conclusions claiming he cheated without knowing what happened is far more extreme and irrational than staying neutral.

 

Isal/Shadow...cloned brains ...all nonsense

 

No one jumped to conclusions he had levels of clenbuterol that are too high to indicate contamination and he has history of not wanting to be drug tested.
Go home and eat that dog food

 

Thing is, it's not neccesary to jump to any conclusions about how the clenbuterol happens to be in Canelo's sample. It's sufficient that it he has provided a positive sample. From here on in the burden of proof lies solely on Canelo and unless and until he's proved the reading was due to an innocent mistake the presumption is that he's cheated.

Even should he prove that tainted meat was to blame he is still guilty of having that sample in his blood and should face consequences, because it's his responsibility to avoid any possible contamination, no one else's.

 

Read the rules, there is zero tolerance for Clenbuterol. Though its not like you give a crap you dishonest ****.

 

Yes if you are caught with clen in your system u need to face a punishment, this is whats wrong with boxing, its terrible, now most people will see canelo as a cheat, and he probably is a cheat and even if he wins this fight he won dirty and basically he was almost certainly cheating for the first fight and got away with it and nearly got away with a win too so its all bad for canelo im afraid now. But he wont really care if he wins the next fight and takes the belts, it will all blow over, apart from forums where it never will and canelo will make his money and go on

imo the fight should be off, canelo should be banned for a year and then subjected to extra testing for 2 years and certainly any big fights, thats how it should work but money talks and boxing is corrupt and probably full of cheats who get away with it

 

Then why did the director of the VADA lab say that the levels of his sample are consistent with eating contaminated meat? Am I supposed to believe that you're more of an expert on clenbuterol than the Vada lab director?

He has a history of not wanting to be drug tested? Are you saying that due to how there apparently wasn't VADA testing for Canelo vs Liam Smith back in 2016? Did you know that in a Jan 2017 WBC list of boxers not enrolled in VADA testing, Liam Smith was on the list, as well as Chavez Jr. Canelo wasn't on that list. That list seems to indicate that Smith had more of a history of not wanting to be drug tested than Canelo. (Kovalev was on that list as well as Willie Monroe)

It sounds like just assuming that Canelo didn't want to be drug tested because it fits your agenda.

Is this necesary? Why are you unable to have a productive conversation on the issues?

 

VADA is a voluntary program. There have been fights in recent yeras that have occurred without VADA testing being involved. The fact is VADA is becoming more of a standard in the sport. That's a good thing and we should applaud fighters who participate in the program to show they are clean. That doesn't mean every time there's a positive test we need to automatically crucify the boxer who tested positive. The purpose of VADA is not to punish fighters, but rather to ensure that fighters are clean. Of course it's no surprise that any positive test is going to generate negative publicity and outrage, but fans can still use their brains and try to maintain a level of integrity and not jump to conclusions. Clenbuterol is a banned substance, however it's also a known problem in meat from Mexico. There's nothing wrong with not jumping to conclusions. If you disagree and think he's guilty of cheating, then you have every right to your opinion, but challenging that belief is what the purpose of topics like this are. I have no problem with you believing that he cheated or believe that he should face punishment, but at the end of the day, neither of us know that he cheated for sure, and until we do we should try and stay as neutral as possible and wait for the results of the investigation.

 

First of all, just because they are consistent with tainted meat does NOT indicate that's all it could be. It's also consistent with someone cycling OFF the clen. Do you dispute that?

If the director says it's consistent, then what that indicates is he was ASKED if it was. Do you think he just up and gave his informal investigation in a quick sentence, came up with the contaminated meat idea out of the blue?

 

No crap sherlock, that's why there are rules that take your BS opinion out of it.

 

There's nothing BS about my opinion. I am staying neutral, deal with it. No need for you to get all bent out of shape over "my opinion".

 

If Canelo wins fair and square, well, that's boxing. If he loses and gets his 5-6th homecooked decision (losing count there have been so many) then you bet I'll be complaining.

 

Please...there's nothing neutral about you. If there were, you wouldn't be grasping at every word the director said on tainted beef. Nor would you deny that the level found are also consistent with cycling off the drug. But in your mind, it's 100% tainted beef...nothing else possible.