Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

It was only recorded as a draw but very few who saw the fight acknowledge the decison as being valid.

Absolutely, Just because VADA didn’t catch Canelo the first time, doesn’t mean he wasn’t doping. It just means he was able to beat the tests through means of masking through dilution or other means to test negative. It’s well known that athletes who are adamant about using PEDs, are almost always ahead of the testing measures, finding ways to game the system.

 

Lol by whom Canelo fans?honestly Shadow I’ve nothing against you but Canelo,GB and even his fans have been tainted by this however it came to be so I can’t think it would matter what they thought?
It won’t come to that though will it,we both know this fight will happen regardless,too much brass involved

 

By "he" you mean "GGG fans" right?

Cause he certainly won't be fielding telephone calls from internet trolls.
Every credible fight pundit had him winning by 4 rds and even the demograph pundits can't say ish since they run they mouth bout every caucasoid fighter whos popped, even if it was as an AM 25 yrs ago.

GGG ain't gonna let that drug cheat stand in the way of a 12-15 mil payday.

He's also not gonna fight in 4LOW.

Going maximum overdrive from the opening bell. Make Alvarez run off what stamina he has, then drop and stop him with a solar plexus UC.

 

Everybody likes to throw around the word corrupt without actually defining what they mean by corrupt. What makes you think GBP is corrupt? I mean really, is it just a belief you have or is it something concrete?

It seems to me like the main reason people think GBP is corrupt is because they believe that Oscar De La Hoya paid off Bryd to score the fight wide to Canelo or something absur. I mean it's one thing to not like or disagree with how a promoter does business, but just because you dislike something about a promoter, or don't agree with judges scorecard or something, it doesn't mean there's actual corruption involved. I mean, there could be, I think most of us suspect there is corruption scattered throughout the sport of boxing, but you need to specify what specifically you know to be corrupt otherwise it's just a belief.

 

Fortunately that’s one thing I don’t expect from Canelo,he’s one of the cleanest boxers around I’d say in that respect

 

I hear you....I am merely making an assumption that clenbuterol wasn’t the only PED he was taking. That’s just what he got popped with. I’m sure if he was taking clen; he was also on some other banned substances that aided him throughout camp up to the last few weeks before the fight. The residual effects would still be benefiting him on fight night. What those other PEDs were....I have no idea but I strongly believe it wasn’t just Clenbuterol.

 

That ****ing director should have never opened his mouth about the test result. The first positive test was not consistent to tainted meat. It was so much higher than the 2nd failed test. The director even said further investigation is needed to come to any conclusion.

SO in actuality this is consistent to someone cycling of clen instead of eating tainted beef.

 

Just shady decisons....highly suspect score cards...shoddy officiating in bouts that favor his fighters...over playing the card in picking specific judges or refs overseeing GBP matches. Nothing concrete until actual evidence is produced like the FBI investigation into Top Rank years ago. Nothing like that has happened to Golden Boy, yet....but there are plenty of red flags in Golden Boy Promoted fights that had very suspect outcomes. The Byrd is only one instance of highly questionable situations linked to a Golden Boy fight that favored his charge. Again....nothing concrete but if it walks like a duck, Talks like and duck and sounds like a duck....I’m going to assume it’s a duck....although it could be a goose?

 

The director also said that they need to investigate because the first one was very high. But Isal and his butt buddies never mention the second half of his comments. That's why GBP wrote that press release the way they did, to create a fiction and them flamos are running with it.

 

Clenbuterol or not, the fact that some (not all) but some Golovkin fans have been calling for him to pull out of the rematch is cowardly. How any self respecting boxing fan could call for their fighter to back down from a fight of this magnitude is a sign of weakness.

And again, I understand saying that is part of the "Canelo is cheating" belief but still, I mean imagine in Rocky IV if Rocky in the middle of the movie decided to pull out of fighting Ivan Drago. What if during his training a reporter approached Rocky and said that Ivan Drago was cheating and the movie ended with Rocky leaving Russia screaming "I think you cheated Drago, I would have fought you but your a cheat, screw this". I mean that **** would be pathetic. It's in a fighter's nature to not back down from a fight.

When Wilder Povetkin was cancelled Wilder came out and said how disapointed he was that it was cancelled. Wilder wanted to fight Povetkin. But we have some sissy Golovkin fans coming on here wanting him to pull out of this fight and it's pathetic !

 

No if it was just Byrd you could put it down as a mistake or a one off but something like this happens every time Álvarez fights.
How come we all have this psychic ability to be able to predict one awful scorecard every time he fights Shadow?
How come you have to like every aspect of team Canelo?is it not possible to admire Canelo but hate GB and their A side BS?
As a Golovkin fan I’ve long said I don’t like K2 but you just can’t bring yourself to dislike any of it can you.
That’s why you get Called a fanboy as you’ll never concede an inch re Canelo,what is it about him that attracts such fervent supporters?

 

Seriously, is that troll going to now play the dumb card in respect to GBP's house of corruption? Hell, one could safely say all promoters are corrupt as hjell and never be slapped with a defamation suit, rofl.

 

Now he knows for a fact he's being cheated, if he didn't already from that "draw."

 

DLH the promoter is a far cry from DLH as a fighter.

 

But you see, that's just it. You're belief that GBP is corrupt is based entirely on judges scorecards !

I think GBP does a good job promoting their fighters and it may subconciously affect some judges, but that's not proof of corruption. GBP obviously didn't have the kind of power to stop Canelo's positive drug test from being made public. If GBP had the kind of pull that many here believe they had, surely Oscar would have the power to stop the clenbuterol story from even coming out. I mean some Canelo detractors were even making the argument that they didn't believe he was being tested. Oh that's right didn't you just state that you think Canelo was on something for Canelo Golovkin 1? Again I ask was VADA not involved in the first fight? How could he have been tested all this time but then you still believing he was on something last year? It just doesn't add up and I'm really trying to understand your viewpoint.

I think sometimes we as fans have a tendency to root for a side so hard that you'll believe anything about the other side.