Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    This has already been posted and debated.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol that’s pretty clear cut,so how come Canelo is in the clear,corruption at its finest.
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The rule says don't get caught using illegal substances, however you plan to abide, for example using PEDs more carefully or in another example, not using them at all, is entirely in your own hands. Fail to do so, and it's not up to the excuse of the month to clear your name, the test says what the test says.

    You need to realize is that every single athlete that failed a test has come back with an excuse, and "bad meat" is particularly overused especially among Clenbuterol cheats. So what if one of the wealthiest athletes on the planet really did eat low ass Cartel street level, tainted meat? Well there's a lesson to learn to take better care of your body, isn't there? You are still going down for the deed, per failing a test, it's not that complicated.
     
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  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well then what is the point of the fight happening. The should cancel it. To keep talking about it and GGG using it to make Canelo fight his fight, and Canelo being on the defensive. It just seems worthless. Cancel the fight and move on from it, and fight other guys.
     
  5. Angler Andrew

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    Lol it’s his illuminati all in one tranny suit for showing his camel toe.
    Seriously this guy just invites all those memes about him doesn’t he?
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He doesn’t have any and I’m being quite serious,ever see the camel toe pic?
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no point in the fight happening. It should've been cancelled on day one of the failed test and Canelo banned. Or on day four on the second failed test. Only in boxing...
     
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  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well they should cancel it. It has become too much of an issue. And let them fight other guys and fight in a year. and it will be bigger than also.
     
  9. BigBone

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    Or rather let Canelo serve his sentence, lose millions and his reputation and let Golden Boy lose it's fake cash cow who cheats.
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well I don't know. I say if he is clean, just cancel the fight and let both fight other people and move on..
     
  11. shadow111

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    I agree it's an overused excuse, and many athletes who used meat as an excuse weren't believed, and suspended, like in the Contador case. (One of the factors was becuase he wasn't in a place like Mexico where contamianted clenbuterol meat is a known issue, and his story was preposterous) So just because athletes who have tested positive for clenbuterol used meat as an excuse doesn't mean it's not a legit reason for the positive test in other cases.

    And also, why do you think that you need to eat "low ass Cartel street level" meat for there to be clenbuterol in it? How do you know there isn't clenbuterol in premium meat? A recent study found that 58 out of 200 slaughterhouses in Mexico (29%) had clenbuterol in the meat.

    That's a lot more than just the low end street vender meat. This idea that keeps popping up that Canelo had to be eating the crapiest meat off the street to test positive for clenbuterol is absurd. It's an overused excuse for sure, but at the same time it is a known issue in Mexico. Just because some athletes lie about it being from contaminated meat doesn't mean everybody who says that is lying ! And thus far, we don't even know if that's what it's from in Canelo's case.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    But he's not clean, he's dirty. Clenbuterol is a zero tolerance drug, so any amount equates to a ban. The only provision is if one had no control or choice in consuming it accidentally, like competing in a foreign country where you could not discern the origin of the meat. Does that sound like Clenelo's situation where he was not in control?
     
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  13. BigBone

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    Why would you let a drug cheat fight on? The point of drug testing is singling out those cheating a level playing field, which is especially dangerous in boxing where you are not punching the ball with a racket, you are punching a head with your fists. What should every Canelo opponent think incl. Smith and Khan after seeing he's got caught cheating? They got hurt badly and now wondering if they've suffered damage from an illegal substance abuser. Canelo didn't fail a test then but failed twice now, and banishment is the appropriate response.
     
  14. Stefz

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    The amount of clen in his system is very very very very high for a person caught eating meat. The amount of clen he would need to eat would be insane. Don't forget the clen would lose its potency in the meat with how long the meat is left out for, how long its cooked for and various other factors. It doesn't just stay as concentrated from the day its fed to the cows.
     
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  15. shadow111

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    I like how you convieniently refrained from posting points 3 and 4. Maybe you were too busy sailing on your private yacht to notice these points, so why don't I help you out :

    3. It is possible that under certain circumstances the presence of a low level of clenbuterol in an athlete sample can be the result of food contamination. However, each case is different and all elements need to be taken into account.

    4. Under the World Anti-Doping Code, result management of cases foresees the opportunity for an athlete to explain how a prohibited substance entered his/her body.


    This statement was from June 2011, that's nearly 7 years ago. That just goes to show how long WADA has known about the contaminated meat issue as it relates to clenbuterol.
     
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