Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

the first sample surely could, its very low.

The 2nd sample's explanation might be contamination of the urine bottle directly from touch ie a mistake. A lot depends on who supervised the sample taking - in a hospital a nurse would check someone visually if they were suspected of being incompetent to do so alone. God knows if VADA watch someone pee into a bottle.

Its true that the 2nd sample might be tampered with too rather than plain being an honest mistake - to prevent a positive detection from being motioned as a formal decison. Since both results conflict with each other now.

Either canelo was too dumb to do the test properly, or too smart to let the test fail him with a definitive result.

 

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Actually even the first test is still pretty high.

 

WTF, that's an instant DQ right there. It's against the rules to consume anything during the fight.

 

its trace.

 

The first test = super high amount.
The second test = trace amounts.

 

ah then i got em the wrong way round, i thought b was the superbad.

 

also they ddint address him as "clenelo" in the letter, silly vada. Someones not doing their job there.

 

I’d hedge my bets on Clenelo’s rep being ruined forever. The guy already has plenty of haters and that hasn’t stopped him from making millions. He has an incredible PR machine backing him and the blatant favoritism of the WBC. Clenbuterol is a relatively unknown drug to most- it’s not like he tested positive for a well known steroid. If he beats GGG he will say the positive tests were a fluke and he tested clean every time since. If he loses, he’ll say there were too many distractions from the media circus around his camp. If you and I boycott his fights he’ll still be fine- he’s the only Mexican game in town right now and his appeal isn’t to hardcore fans, it’s to the casuals. His dirty tests have done far more to generate interest and ppv buys for the rematch than a year’s worth of regular promotion work.

 

Sorry you've still got it wrong. Each test equals one sample is taken, then that sample is split into two containers making Sample A and B. The purpose for two samples from one test is a safety for chain of custody. When disputes arise over chain of custody, this is when the B sample is tested. Thus for both failed tests there would be 4 samples, two from each day.

 

I don't like games built on the test.. That is when I think Canelo should pull out of the fight and see who GGG fights then.

 

that true, my bad.

yeh the tests dont back each other up. Maybe it is a lab error.

I'll await further outcome from vada.

 

Labs don't make errors. I don't get why you keep wanting to make it sound like an error anyways? The first test came back very high. That means it is not meat related. It's impossible to consume that much meat to create a spike like that.

 

they make mistakes, thats one reason why they have 2nd samples.

they dont support each other. They need a margin of similarity in order to validate each other.

As it stands it he needs retesting, though I tihnk its may have been done already.

 

Any amount of Clenbuterol is doping, says WADA

'This is just the dopers adjusting or mis-adjusting to the testing'

Alberto Contador's lawyers will need to re-think their Tour de France doping defence. A WADA official reminded them that an athlete with any amount of the drug Clenbuterol is considered positive.

"Just because it's small doesn't mean it's not doping," WADA's Christiane Ayotte told the New York Times. "This is just the dopers adjusting or mis-adjusting to the testing."

Ayotte runs the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lab outside of Montreal. She commented on the recent cases of athletes testing positive for small amounts of Clenbuterol. The drug helps breathing and weight loss.

Recent cases:
- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms
- Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms
- Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms
- Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms
- Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: 600-800 piocgrams

Cyclists Li and Colò both received suspensions from their federations. Germany acquitted table tennis player Ovtcharov, but WADA has since appealed the decision. All of the athletes argued that the Clenbuterol came from eating contaminated beef.

The WADA lists Clenbuterol as a banned substance regardless of how it was ingested. Contador maintains his innocence and claims that the beef that his Astana team bought in Irún, Spain, caused the positive result.

Link: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/66...says-WADA.aspx