Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh wow, that's great. Where's he live, a state where it's been legalized?

    Hah, ****ing Bob Arum going to outlive everyone, smoking joints and selling souls.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dude must have made his bones years and years ago... the only kind of thing that keeps you in a career for as long as Arum has been at his are A) Having no other choice and B) Enjoying what you do.

    Somehow, I think Bob fits into the latter category.
     
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  3. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Don't know, but he be getting some good **** Bob, probably grows his own. I could see him pruning a plant while on the blower actually
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To provide some context as to what levels are considered consistent with meat contamination, here's a link to a statement from the IOC about what levels they consider consistent with meat contamination. Several posters have argued that 600-800 picograms is "too high" for it to be from meat contamination. Well this statement by the IOC speaks to that directly.

    http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/ioc-statement-regarding-ard-documentary-jamaican-sprinters/

    The IOC carefully deliberated whether or not to proceed with these cases. In particular, the IOC consulted with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) who was fully involved in the decision-making process. All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases.

    So per the IOC, any sample below 1ng/ml, or 1000 picograms, is within the range of potential meat contamination. Here's another article from last year that discusses the need for possible clenbuterol level thresholds.

    http://www.sportsintegrityinitiativ...-case-highlights-need-clenbuterol-thresholds/

    An IOC statement revealed that the level of clenbuterol in the samples ‘were below 1ng/ml’, which it said is consistent with potential cases of meat contamination.

    However, ARD’s investigation (video below) disputed the suggestion that the Jamaican positives were caused by contaminated meat due to preparations by both the IOC and the Jamaican team.

    So this should put to rest all the experts on here who have claimed that they believe Canelo's 600-800 picograms exceeds the level of which is consisent with meat contamination. Not according to the IOC. That limit is 1,000 picograms.
     
  5. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, you lost the plot a bit. If i understand your train of thought then you think the samples with high and trace amount of clen were acquired during the same test as samples A and B.
    As thesmokingm already told you, those are two separate tests taken days apart. It’s only natural that the second test showed lower levels of clen as the bulk of it had already left Canelo’s body
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have given that he’s one of the top commentators and his peers such as Steve Smith ect are obviously as corrupt in this as Álvarez himself.
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Troll.
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    VADA seem more than happy enough to offer up excuses on Canelo's behalf according to GBP.
     
  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don’t shatter the illusion as we’re trying our best here to believe it was tainted meat.
     
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There does need to be some clarification on this,need to find out what levels Browne was flagged for and why he couldn’t use the old meat excuse.
     
  11. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah his responses are bizarre and out if left field.. maybe he is confusing the second test with a B sample which Canelo declined to have verified.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bloody hell this stuff sounding worse the more we hear about it.
     
  13. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Bob Bennett is planning to give him a retroactive TUE!
     
  14. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    They've already written the report. It's very concise.

    A single page with the word "meh"
     
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  15. Stefz

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    I really don't think Shadow understands how a "cycle" works, or why the meat is a very much bogus excuse. Hes guilty with the positive test. He needs to prove his innocence.
     
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