Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2017-04/wada-statement-on-ard-documentary

Effectively, when the circumstances of a positive case indicate that the athlete has been in one of the identified countries where clenbuterol meat contamination is significant, the anti-doping community views it as unreasonable to put the burden of proof on the athlete, i.e. to prove that the meat, which he or she had consumed, was contaminated;

 

He, and another poster, seem to put all their eggs in to the "WADA said tainted meat levels" story w/o accepting that Canelo's test could also simply be the end of his cycling of the drug. They found their narrative and are sticking to it.

 

...while completely ignoring the first test, which is far too inconvienient to mention.

 

I've been catching people in lies, setting the record straight. In case you missed it, check the last page (172). I directly addressed the first test, the 600-800 picograms and whether that is in range of contaminated meat. Turns out the first test, the 600-800 picograms is within the range for contaminated meat, which is less than 1,000 picograms.

 

It's not a bogus excuse according to WADA and the IOC. WADA has made it clear that the burden of proof is not on the athlete in cases of clenbuterol,

And the IOC made a statement last year describing what they consider the range of potential meat contamination cases, which are values below 1ng/ml, or 1,000 picograms.

Why do you choose to ignore this information?

As far as whether or not he was cycling off it, could that be possible? Anything's possible, but how can you expect me to consider what you're putting forth when you've completely ignored what I've presented?

 

Geesuz christ, put down the google, the IOC doesn't have **** to do with this.

 

I have gone tit for tat with the arguments that have been put forth. We heard posters claim Canelo's 600-800 picogram was too high for contaminated meat to be an excuse. Well I looked into it and lo and behind I found what the limit was.

Understand that it was not me to made the claims that 600-800 was too high for contaminated meat. I simply tested the validity of what others have said and found them to have been in error.

You got this all backwards. It's not me who put the eggs into the tainted meat levels, it was those posters who argued the contrary, that 600-800 was too high for contaminated meat, to which I fact checked them on it and it turned out to not be the case. According to the IOC, anything under 1,000 picograms is consistent with contaminated meat.

 

You tested the validity? Give me a break with that. You aren't any professional or expert on this. You've essentially stamped and approved the 'tainted meat' reasoning from the very beginning w/o even considering the other possible reason, that canelo simply got busted. This is a guy who for 4 years fought at 155. If that doesn't sound like someone with weigh issues to you (Hence the clen), you are simply choosing to stay in the dark.

 

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/ioc-statement-regarding-ard-documentary-jamaican-sprinters/

IOC consulted with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) who was fully involved in the decision-making process. All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2017-04/wada-statement-on-ard-documentary

• All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases.

 

No I'm not an expert, that's why I researched it and found out what the experts had as the range. The claim was by thesmokingm that 600-800 picograms was "off the scale" as far as what could be considered tainted meat. Yet, when I checked, WADA and the IOC have anything less than 1,000 picograms as their range of what could be considered contaminated meat.

 

And then? Does WADA follow the IOC? Are you ignoring the hundreds of cases of banned samples way below your precious IOC limit? WTF. Put down the Google.

 

WADA lists the range as anything below 1,000 picograms. Not 50 picograms like you said. You assumed 600-800 was too high for it to be contaminated meat, I fact checked you, turns out you were wrong. Why don't you just own it?

 

Goodness me, you're trying to BS your way out of this and it's not gonna work. You've already been exposed as posting falsehoods for which you've been called out on.

If you've been paying attention, if you check last page I spoke directly to this point about what caused those athletes to be banned.

(What caused those other athletes to be banned wasn't the level of clenbuterol they had, but rather the circumstances surrounding the positive test. . . )

 

Wrong. The cases you are referring to are specific cases in the Olympics that the IOC wanted handled a certain way since the numbers of these cases are high. Basically when you have Olympic Games in foreign countries like omfg, China who ignores international bans on Clenbuterol, the IOC has to protect their army of athletes. One cannot have WADA going around and banning all these athletes. Read the ****ing purpose it's right there. This is not some get out of jail card for Clenelo.