Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

Youre an idiot

 

I think there's a little misconception on your side, your arguments (that have to be stretched to the max to make it work) only show that there is a slim possibility Canelos story is true, I'm not denying that.
It's just not very likely, especially if you consider all the other factors. He of all people should know about the problem and he has the means to avoid it (hence he hasn't come up positive before). He probably has the best team in all of mexico regarding this situation.
Back to your math, I provided you with the information, that the dissipation is not linear. You then answer, that you just assumed this for your calculations and go on about how that would work (barely) in your case. So what? It's not based in reality.

 

Anything I can do to spark intelligent conversation. With your track record, you're in no way qualified as an authority figure on excretion times and whether my math is accurate or not, just becuase you toss around big words like half life's. As I indicated, it was just a ballpark figure.

The important thing that I provided was the 1,000 picogram limit on what WADA and the IOC considers under which is the range for possibly being due to contaminated meat. I put that in my calculations as well as the maximum concentration of 90 minutes after ingestions. It was only an approximation of the data we had available to us I made it clear that it was what I consider a ball park figure.

If you have anything to add that may be useful, then I suggest you do in a more conducive way than trying so hard to prove me wrong. Hopefully we will find out more today about what all this data means from the experts and real authority figures involved in the investigation.

 

It really all comes down to how soon after he consumed meat did the test occur. I think we can agree agree that if it was within 24 hours of consuming the meat it's plausible for A 600-800 picograms result to occur, considering the IOC considers 1,000 picograms the maximum result for possible meat contamination. But again, I am interested in hearing what news comes out today as we are being told will happen. Hopefully that will shed some more light on the situation. However I did appreciate the information you provided like your source on maximum concentration being 90 minutes after ingestion.

 

You can look up the half life of clenbuterol its not that hard and anyone with any knowledge of chemistry knows what it is.

You made up some idiotic dissipation figure out of your ass.
Half life's are set in stone and even being on the very generous side to clenelo the half life's don't match up at all unless you assume that he had much higher doses in him before the first failed test.

You got taken to school trying to spin your web of lies. Lay down and take the L because you have been ruined

 

You can call me whatever you want, but the point still stands. the %s are pretty much the same and it indicates that there are a lot of Golovkin fans on the forum.

 

i cant believe you just called half life's a big word lol.
Did you even finish high school?

 

Maybe true but you are still an idiot and a prime example of what is wrong with Boxing fans.

 

The only poster taken to school around here was the poster who erroneously stated that 600-800 picograms is too high for meat contamination, which as I pointed out was contrary to the IOC and WADA range for contaminated meat.

I was asked to do the math by elbonzoseco and I crunched some numbers. I never claimed to be an expert, but to put forth a plausible scenario to where a 600-800 picograms result could occur from contaimated meat. And remember the lab director indicated that both samples were consistent with eating contaminated meat, which jives with the 1,000 picogram limit that was confirmed by the WADA statement in 2017. You being mad from seeing your colleague get schooled you shouldn't take so personally. Grow up and understand that my intention is not to hurt anyone's feelings, but just to set the record straight when falsehoods are posted.

 

I obviously disagree with your silly characterization of me, but if you feel the need to insult other posters who you disagree with or who's content is a threat to your agenda then that's your prerogative. I'm more interested in having intelligent dialog rather than responding to idiotic posts like you are providing.

 

You shouldn't have brought it up because the half life of clenbuterol means that the drop in between tests makes the tainted meat excuse make no sense.
Because if he had freshly consumed the tainted meat then 3 days later best case scenario there should still be at least 150 pico in his Blood
The only way the drop makes sense given the half lifes is if clenelo before the first test had way higher levels of clenbuterol in his blood ,well into the thousands.

Thanks for bringing it up, it proves clenelos a cheat. Well done i wasn't even bothered about looking into it that much until you spouted off about dissipation times

 

You simply typing the word half life and trying to sound smart like you're some expert doesn't prove that your conclusions are in any way accurate.

 

Intelligent debate?
Iv show you scientifically how it is impossible for the their to be 1/10 the amount 3 days later unless he originally had way higher amounts.
You wont reply you will duck and dodge, you arent interested in intelligent debate, you just want to defend your PEDs cheat

 

The half life of an element or a chemical compound is not a big ****ing deal lol.

Ffs any idiot who did chemistry or physics in high school would know what a half life is.

You must haven't had got that far.
Please stop embarrassing yourself mentioning half life's isn't showing off at all its pretty basic knowledge

 

If that were the case, then why did the VADA lab director claim the samples were consistent with meat contamination? Am I supposed to believe that you know more about how to interpret these tests then the lab director who does this for a living? What a pompous know-it-all you think you are. Lets wait until later today until we get more information.

You spin anything to fit your agenda of Canelo being a cheat. It's laughable that you consider yourself an authority figure on whether Canelo's a cheat or not. Your conclusions are incongruent with the lab director who analyses test results for a living. If you think I'm gonna believe the conclusions of some tool like you with an agenda of Canelo being a cheat over the professionals in the VADA lab you must be out your damn mind lmao.