Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    His US camp was in San Diego.
     
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  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok here it is the reason why he was suspended. It was out of their hands! And unfortunately it seems obvious now that they will be very lenient at the April 10th hearing.

    “A lot of people thought they would just shove this under the rug because they wanted the fight to happen, but with this investigation and the action they’ve taken today, they’ve proven otherwise,” Loeffler said of the commission. “We met today and
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    , but he pointed out that Canelo complied with every request and that he passed multiple tests given to him since the failures. So they’ll have the hearing on April 10 and we’ll see what happens then. But Gennady definitely wants to fight and he’s going to proceed as if the fight is still happening.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/canelo-a...test-failure-ggg-bout-jeopardy-012929260.html
     
  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    roid rage is a *****....
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BE is such a baller! lol
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usual LBDC rubbish from him,I was amazed he even liked GGG.
    Used to listen to Shawn Newton and Montero till their stance on Canelo
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh ok so you’re somehow more qualified than Lederman,Commentators,newspaper writers and the rest of the 99.9% that day who all felt Golovkin won and if being put on the ropes is you’re idea of ring generalship then it’s you who needs better luck next time you judge a fight.
     
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  7. bruce_keyes

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    Canelo is definitely on HGH, I've seen pro bodybuilders who have those bumps on their abs. People saying its acne haha.. Canelo has a perfect complexion (no homo) why would he mysteriously get a zit on his stomach, which is an extremely uncommon place to get zits.. it's definitely HGH, but he is doing small amounts of it, which don't trigger any doping tests. Bodybuilders take huge doses. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/atta...2cb98ceb6ae&attachmentid=6165803&d=1378422193
     
  8. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    defending canelo a full time job?
     
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    lol Yes, I am a little better at judging a fight than a pharmacist. lololol I grew up on the streets and in the gyms. I am not in impressed. I'm far better qualified. Commentators? Who? Max the rapper? Lampley the dude who has never boxed a day in his life? A bunch of writers from outlets that don't give a f**k bout nothin but starf**king and don't know jack about sh*t? Nah. Sorry, son. Nah. I'm not worried about it. I know what I saw and if you want to change my mind, you may do so here but no one seems like they can: https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/um-okay-for-those-who-think-golovkin-won-competition.593957/
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You against the world then eh?
     
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  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Nah, plenty of people agree with me. If we're in the minority, it's cool. I'm used to it. I don't say what I think only when I know most other people think the same thing. I don't do it about my abduction and I don't do it about fights.
     
  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Enantiomer analysis offers new potential

    This would mean that there is a functional difference between a drug product dose and food contamination: a difference that is detectable insofar as the (-) stereoisomer complement of clenbuterol has undergone sufficient depletion. To test this hypothesis, a method for enantiomer separation with subsequent isotope dilution analysis using LC-MS/MS was developed, with the aim of determining the enantiomeric ratio and thus potentially identifying either a case of therapeutic drug dosage or a case of contamination. Figure 3 presents a chromatogram of a urine sample with clenbuterol following enantiomer separation: baseline separation is clearly visible here. Two excretory studies with simple therapeutic doses of clenbuterol were conducted. Results were as expected: the (-)/(+) enantiomer ratio in urine never fell below 1 at any point during the 160 hours of testing. This is due to the fact that the (+) stereoisomer also exhibits elevated tissue retention in such cases, meaning that the (-) stereoisomer is excreted to a significantly greater degree [9]. Following the oral intake of a clenbuterol enantiomer mixture with the (-) stereoisomer component already depleted (as might occur in cases where contaminated meat is consumed), the ratio may show a decremented value that cannot be successfully reconciled with therapeutic administration of the substance. While the authors are not aware of clearance studies involving enantiomer-depleted clenbuterol mixtures, results from athletes’ urine samples have nonetheless shown that (-)/(+) ratios significantly lower than 1 have been determined in a number of cases. In consideration of the fact that a value greater than 1 cannot prove doping took place, yet a value less than 1 is, on the basis of current scientific knowledge, inconsistent with the therapeutic administration of clenbuterol as a drug in humans, the determination of the enantiomer ratio for clenbuterol findings is certain to contribute some useful data. While other – potentially wide-ranging – studies are required to evaluate the potency of enantiomer analysis, one possible approach seems nonetheless practicable.
     
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  14. Angler Andrew

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    Canelo won first three rounds without question and then we do what we always do with Canelo and that’s to look as hard as we can to see if we can give him anything over his opponents,no other fighter in history gets the treatment Canelo gets.
    Using that method you can give two more rounds at best and even if you’re feeling generous one more round gives him a draw but to suggest he won his laughable.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

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    You’ve been abducted?(serious question)
     
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