Joseph Parker: Is he being disrespected?

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  1. Plaza

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    I still think AJ win but info agree that I think AJ may be taking his eye off parker, he says he is not but seems different this fight
     
  2. channy

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    I think the WK fight took a lot out of AJ mentally, if he gets tagged and buzzed by Parker i believe he will go in to semi panic mode, and use up lots of energy by just trying to stay safe, he knows he can be hit and hurt, and like you said Parker isn't 41, and been inactive for almost two years coming off a loss either.

    I really do sense an upset in this one.

    Good post by the way.
     
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  3. Jurgen

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    More likely he will be facing the Millenium Stadium Roof
     
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  4. NakiFan

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    Parker is of Samoan heritage. Not Maori
     
  5. Twentyman

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    I think having gone through that experience, if we had a time machine and Joshua could go back and fight him again, he would put Klitschko down in the 5th and then he’d box him patiently & wouldn’t get caught with the left and he wins the fight comfortably. It was Joshua’s inexperience and naivety that made that fight brilliant to watch. He made Klitschko look really good.

    I think as the weeks rolled by, Klitschko admitted that to himself and knew the experience AJ gained from that fight would make him a much better fighter. AJ would have beat him without all the drama in a rematch imo.

    AJ is a better fighter than Parker, he hits harder like you say and is far more explosive...but it’s a cliche that it’s heavyweight boxing and if they get hit on the button it can be all over. Parker doesn’t hit ‘as hard’ but it’s hard enough. I think AJ will win, but that’s why I think he’s his hardest fight, mate.
     
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  6. Boxingfan200

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    Parker is gonna shock the world ;) if he pulls this off please put hearns face on the camera right away :risas3: I like hearn but wanna see his shocked face if aj loses.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    Apart from Charles Martin, just about everyone AJ's faced has been underestmated by a large section of the AJ cheerleading crowd. I mean, they've generally done better than AJ's fans and the pundits portrayed their chances.

    Dillian Whyte was regularly called a "one round" fight in the build up.
    Many here seriously stated Wladimir Klitschko was going to get destroyed in the early rounds.
    Carlos Takam wasn't generally expected to last to the 10th round and succumb by way of a pathetic British stoppage.

    Joseph Parker hasn't looked good his last 3 fights but he's still a young fighter, he's never lost a pro fight and he's possibly capable of upping his game considerably.

    AJ will be taking the fight very seriously. There's absolutely no reason to believe Parker isn't a serious, very serious, challenge right now. And AJ knows that.

    The boxing fans are fickle. All this hype about Aj-Wilder and AJ-Fury is nonsense for the promoters to worry about. The fans should understand that Parker's the man in AJ's way right now and for all intents and purposes his "pedigree" is equal to Wilder's and obviously his fitness and current relevance far exceeds Tyson Fury's, who's been off for years now.

    If AJ Beats Parker very comfortably, I'd call that his best win by far.
    Because currently his best win is against a 41-year-old who hadn't won a fight in 2 years,coming off a loss and a 17-month layoff, and the win wasn't comfortable.

    AJ's "fans" do him a disservice sometimes by underestimating his opponent's chances.
     
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  8. Jurgen

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    Many people must have failed to watch the Parker v Hughie 'The Skirt' Fury on Fat Mick's I'm a Tube PPV Channel.

    The fight was a stinker mainly because of 'The Skirt' running away all night but Parker also looked very poor even though he won the fight by a mile against a very poor opponent.

    I would be very happy with a Parker win but cannot see how one can chop a tree down without a saw or axe.
     
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  9. Scissors

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    Yeah fair enough but still I think Klitschko was a much harder fight on paper, regardless of age and inactivity. This was a legend who had dominated the sport for a decade. He’s an all time great - a saying bandied about a bit too much in this day and age! But he is a genuine one. I’ve watched a lot of Parker’s fight and he hasn’t impressed me at all. There’s not one fight where I’ve thought he’s a decent fighter. I tipped Hughie to beat him beforehand because that’s how unimpressed I was with his previous performances. I still think Hughie won too! I can’t score a victory with Parker for “ineffective aggression”.
     
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  10. Twentyman

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    I think Hughie won too...but too many folk on here saw it the same way as the judges. I also though the Ruiz fight was at least a draw mate.
     
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  11. Scissors

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    Yeah exactly. Me too. He won the Takam fight but it was another close one 7-5. AJ didn’t drop a round against Takam and had a broken nose for the entirety.
     
  12. bbjc

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    Its not really that hes being disrespected...more a case of it being such a big ask of him...hes a decent fighter parker but hes stuck with a 76 inch reach with the job of basically knocking Joshua out away from home.

    To win the fight he,s gonna have to take punches against Joshua and so far thats not really worked out too well for the opponent. Even the guys that caused Joshua any kind of problem in whyte, klitchko and let's say takam. He almost had whyte done in the first round. Battered takam from early and gave klitchko a bit of a beating as soon as he let his hands go in the fifth. Taking punches against Joshua only really ends one way. And the fact is parker will be taking punches. We hear about good chins etc...but its up against a huge man that throws in bunches and has the power to start the beginning of the end with one punch. Its a massive ask. I can see parker being sharp in this fight...his hand speed with cause Joshua problems. Its not an impossible ask of parker just a very big one. Hence the reason you,ve got to make Joshua heavy favorite. The short reach is a killer. You,ve got to basically go into a bigger/stronger man who can hurt people running away from him let alone going into him. Parker needs to throw combinations and not let up when he does commit. Otherwise Joshua springs back at the one and two,s with his own stuff. Parker as I think twenty says is guilty of admiring his work at times...gets his shots off then daydreams to an extent. It will cost him if he doesn't sort it. Needs to get the pace up. Its allright being on the backfoot but they can't stay on the backfoot trying to stay out of danger. Joshua eventually catches up with you. Come from the backfoot...and commit to your attack when you do. Don't try to box with Joshua as the smaller man. Fight him. But also frustrate him. That's how you,ll beat him.
     
  13. Scissors

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    It’s such a difficult ask because I think some of AJ’s best work and most underrated work is on the inside. He’s a much better boxer than he’s given credit for. Everyone just sees him as this bodybuilder knock out merchant but he’s got a stellar amateur background. He can box.

    Wilder can cause him problems because he can land from anywhere and it’s good night. Fury can cause him problems because he can dance around from range and fight perfectly on the back foot whilst frustrating AJ. Parker I just can’t see what he does that will trouble AJ.
     
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  14. bbjc

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    Yeah aj,s a bit better than a lot of us first thought. He is good on the inside. I think what he does struggle with tho is punches in numbers. You give him singles on the inside he bounces straight back at you. You give him threes and fours it puts him on the backfoot just long enough to get yourself out of there. Dillon white had some success with it. He was firing in two,s and threes. A lot of these guys are making the mistake of trying to box him thinking he is just a big robot. Hes good at defending the singles even the doubles if theirs not much on them. I think he shuts down for that split second if you throw in bunches tho. You need to put your punches together against him. Their too worried about landing that first punch. You don't need to. Its the second and third punch that needs to land.

    You need to stop him bouncing back on you. To do that you either need to hit him with something big with that first punch or keep throwing enough punches to force him back just enough...to give you time to either get out of there or push forward and keep going with it. Hitting him with something big with that first punch is hard to do because he does do the basics pretty well. That first punch should be the decoy punch. White used it well his attacks came from too far out. He was kind of forced too. But he followed it up with more punches. The first punch was just used to close the gap. I can see parker getting success if he does that because I,ve seen parker throwing in bunches going forward before. He can do it. Weather it gets him the kind of success to win the fight is another thing tho.

    Obviously thats not the way to go about it if your fury or wilder but with parkers reach its pretty much got to be done on the inside for him.
     
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  15. zulander

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    Have we seen Joshua panic yet? He got hit by a huge puncher in Wlad and while he went ultra defensive he managed to avoid the left hooks. He then regrouped and went on to win. You could argue Parker might throw with more volume if that situation presents itself but he isnt the puncher Wlad is...
    Against Whyte AJ was wobbled briefly tried to hold, took one or two before rolling and blocking the punches before firing off a combo that backed Whyte off.
    Joshua is an experienced fighter I dont see him panicking unless Parker appears to be hugely ahead on the cars.
    If Parker can make AJ for 3 minutes around, get inside - he has a decent body attack and make Joshua miss at range he has a chance he looks to have the engine to fight a good pace for 12 rounds, but against Ruiz he took a lot of punches - took them well but Joshua hits that much harder and thats the problem for me.
    Parker has a chance but i cant overlook the physical aspect.
     
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