Dillian Whyte vs. Lucas Browne & Frank Buglioni vs. Callum Johnson RBR

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You said....

    "Joshua is not ready yet.

    In boxing this is what we call ducking."

    So you accept Wilder ducked Wlad because he 'wasn't ready' after 33 fights?
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Another one peddling forth falsehoods. Shall we put this to rest now?

    ''Hearn has always maintained that Joshua is the bigger draw and the more popular champion, meaning he deserves a bigger slice of the pie, but Wilder has conceded ground in the public negotiations in order to force the fight.

    "I’m there,” Wilder said when asked whether he would accept 60-40 in favour of Joshua with the winner receiving 60-40 in the rematch.

    Nothing has been offered, nothing. Even when [Eddie] Hearn and his father [Barry] came to America last year, they weren’t talking about Joshua. Joshua wasn’t in their mind.

    "They were saying ‘you guys and Dillian Whyte’. Like I said before, I would fight Dillian Whyte no problem. That’s easy.

    “As long as you have Joshua on the end of that, we’re good. And they didn’t even want to make that happen.''
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What on earth are you talking about?

    Wladimir wasn't calling Wilder out. Just like Wilder wasn't calling Haye out, they were not on each others radar. It doesn't mean it was a duck.

    A duck is when all things are in place, where both fighters are on a head on collision course and the best option for their careers in their next fight is to fight each other, yet one keeps making excuses as to why the fight can't happen.

    Both Wilder and Joshua have declared their intentions to fight each other, yet one party is more hungry than the other.

    There really isn't much more to it than this.

    Hearn has explicably said he is looking to arrange Joshua to fight fight Big Baby Miller and hopes for Wilder to fight Whyte, while the rest of the boxing world, including Wilder himself wants Joshua vs Wilder next.

    Those are the facts, not how many fans Wilder has in the uk, not who is asking for the bigger split, but the fact that Hearn is doing everything in his power to stall this fight.
     
  4. Gneus7

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    Do you have a date for this? Seems to me he only came down on his demands after Joshua had already agreed to fight Parker

    It's easy to cherry pick quotes to believe. Look.


    "Yes, absolutely. Anthony is happy to go into that fight next.

    Deontay is coming to Cardiff, we can sit down, we can get that fight made. No problems from our side."

    "Make no mistake, I was with Anthony Joshua this morning, he wants to fight Deontay Wilder. He sees that as an easier fight potentially than the Joseph Parker fight.

    Hearn on where he left off in the talks for a potential Joshua-Wilder fight:

    “They said ‘oh we’ll take the Dillian Whyte fight if it means the Joshua fight.’ I said ‘ok, well let’s talk about that.’ Wilder made it very clear he wants 50/50 in the Joshua fight, which is not gonna happen. So once he said that we had the Parker fight there, we said ‘look, we’ll deal with the people who want the fight.’

    “This guy Wilder, he talks about ‘I’m willing to fight anybody, I’ll fight them all’ — have you ever made an offer, or a serious offer, to Joseph Parker, another world champion? He says he wants all the belts, he wants the one champion. [Did he make an offer to] Joseph Parker, no. Have you ever made a serious offer to Wladimir Klitschko when he had the belt, or Tyson Fury? No, you haven’t. Have you ever made an offer to us, to fight Anthony Joshua? No.

    “So how serious can you be and how keen to unify this division if haven’t even made any serious or considerable offers to the champions? Can’t be that serious. And we could make the Joshua fight [with a snap of the fingers] against Wilder, if he was just serious. Or if he was, you know, sensible.
     
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  5. lewis gassed

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    I hope it does, someone is gonna cry and it won't be AJ or Fury :sisi1
     
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  6. lewis gassed

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    LOL at Whyte kicking the ropes at the end and almost falling over :bash: :lol:
     
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  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    After Wilder's 33rd fight.


    “Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.” - Shelly Finkle.


    Oh dear oh dear oh dear @Sephiroth Rising 7


    Your boy has a history of ducking.
     
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  8. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Was that a pool of Brownes on blood he’s was laying in? That was a brutal beating seemed almost personal though it clearly was only business.
     
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  9. Gneus7

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    Lol. Was a nice save though.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Do you realise Eddie Hearn has form for lying through his teeth?

    We only have Eddie's word that Wilder has been demanding 50/50. If money was so much of a problem, why was Hearn willing to put out 4 million to Wilder for him to fight Whyte? Browne received 300k for his troubles tonight!

    And with that point, Wilder was willing to accept 4 million granted that there was a clause in the contract, that guaranteed the winner of the Whyte vs Wilder would fight Joshua and Eddie wanted no part of such a deal.

    This is the same snake that wormed his way out of Joshua honoring his mandatory against Ortiz who he wouldn't let go any where near Joshua, even though he promised him he would get him the fight, if he joined with Matchroom.

    They delayed and delayed and delayed until Ortiz eventually lost his mandatory position by failing to disclose his blood pressure medication.

    And you really believe he wants him in the ring with Wilder, after all the evidence and words from both Hearn's and Joshua's mouth?
     
  11. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Your bias confirms that you cannot have a sensible opinion on this.
     
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  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    A history of ducking, yes I'll be the first to admit to that.

    And you know why I can admit to that? because I'm not a dumb casual fanboy who will blindly defend the indefensible.

    Now hear your boy's words, when asked about fighting Wilder.

    I started boxing 2010, Wilder turned pro 2009, so he’s been a pro one year longer than my whole career,” the IBF and WBA champion told Sky Sports.

    “So you can see why they’re rushing him for certain reasons and you can see why I’m taking my time for certain reasons.

    “The fights are there, but as I say I’m going to do it in my own time when I feel ready.”


    Are we going to now agree that Joshua is ducking? Or are you going to show your hypocrisy?
     
  13. OpinionOfACasual

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    But you're having a dig at Joshua for copying Wilder....

    That is the definition of Hypocrisy.
     
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  14. Gneus7

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    "I knock Joshua out and don't be surprised if it is in the first round. But I definitely knock Joshua out," he told ESPN when asked how he believes any fight would play out.

    "It is a great fight, it is one of the biggest fights in the world and everyone wants it. It will be 50-50 or else we don't see a fight."

    I could easily switch that around and say do you really believe Wilder wants the fight when he makes unrealistic demands, hasn't made any offers to AJ and has a history of avoiding dangerous opponents? This biased hater **** is just childish.
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    So you admit Joshua is ducking Wilder, just as Wilder did in the past to other opponents.

    Thank you.

    I rest my case.