Journeyman & GateKeepers

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  1. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Is there a difference between the two?
    Any favorites?

    Bert Cooper. Good enough to fight the best, just never beat the best. Bert was the HW gatekeeper in the 90s, IMO.
    Up n comers back then didn't pick him to pad their record. You had to go thru Bert to prove that valor and he tested every great. Didn't roll over.
    Orlin Norris, Ray Mercer, Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer.

    Ballooned Ray's face in a BRUTAL slugfest.
    Gave Holy a standing 8.
    Dropped Moorer twice in a fight of the year pick.

    Emanuel Augustus & Orlando Salido are another 2 fighters I knew would lose the fight, but they never showed up to lie down. You had to earn that fight. & if you weren't on your game, Salido and the Drunken warrior would score an upset.
     
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    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Unfortunately he's too identified with Wilder mockery now, but Sconiers was a real tough out journeyman back in his time. He beat a couple contenders.
     
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  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    elijah tillery
    sherman williams
    quick tillis
    jose ribalta
    danny williams
    dereck chisrora

    jornneymen but who not good enough to be champs but who fought hard and did not lay down
     
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  4. The Long Count

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    Sconiers was 3-15 going into the Wilder bout. Only remotely impressive name he had was ray Austin. Outside of that I fail to see the contenderS he defeated
     
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    Ross Purrity.
    Tex Cobb
    Joe Hipp
     
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  6. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    purrity was a genuine hard man
    forgot about joe hipp
    native american who looked about as fit as the michelin man but he was a warrior

    love raising arizona film and tex cobb /he was a great character.
     
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  7. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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  8. andrewa1

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    Mccline and Austin are two good names for a contender, let alone someone who had a losing record. Hell, his two names are probably as good as Stivernes best names.

    Zuri Lawrence might be an even better example, although he didn't have a losing record like Sconiers. Zuri beat Sosnowski, Mccline, tied Austin and Mo Harris.
     
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  9. The Long Count

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    Mcline was 42 and losing more often than not but yes Zuri was decent and had solid journeyman record
     
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  10. Tramell

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    Tillery-- makes me want to get out Bowe-Tillary with Newman pulling a WWWE move...

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  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Gatekekeepers: Chisora, Takam, Dimitrenko, Wach, Teper, Duhapuas, Browne (new entry)
     
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  12. LitoCandela

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    Gatekeepers are solid fighters who are supposed to be only lose to the top fighters int he division.
    Journeymen can be interchangeable, but I consider journeymen to be on a lower level of skill than Gatekeepers.

    They both make this sport what it is. The real question is WHEN is a fighter labeled a gate keeper?
     
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    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Was also going to say Darnell Boone
     
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  15. Dagnaldinho

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    Gatekeepers are usually the guys who have gotten past domestic level, have failed in World title shots but are always there or there abouts at World Level, everyone knows they arent World class but they are a good test.
    Derek Chisora is the perfect example.

    A journeyman is somebody who you fight early on in your career, they usually have more losses than wins, they take fights on short notice, usually fight twice a month. Sticking with the heavyweight division, Jason Gavern would be a good example
     
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