Old school knowledge(magazines) vs New School (internet)

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  1. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Analogy:
    IMO it's like comparing free weights vs. nautilus.

    Free weights don't lie. When one arm lifts the bar higher than the other...gotta work on that weak one.

    IMO Same for knowing something. Reading magazines, You flip through those pages and will learn things...on the way to your favorite column, article.

    Not on the internet. It can only bring up what it (thinks) you are looking for.
     
  2. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    The bad thing about magazines, was, -by the time the issue came out, too many fights came and went.

    With Internet, reel time. INTERNET can't be beat there..


    The good thing about magazines is that it's a snapshot in a particular time, covering every single event, fights mentioned (globally). With the internet, that **** get 's lost. Only big names survive and the small ones forever lost.
     
  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    A Person would be hard pressed to find this kinda information about RR

    Ray Robinson used to stand up for Joe Louis in the army. Unlike Joe, he refused to fight exhibitions for whites only.

    Another time Joe got chewed out for using a phone booth (whites only) before the MP could approach Joe, he and Ray were going at it in Camp Sibert, Alabama.

    Funny fact, Ray not only feared flying, he also was afraid to take elevators!!!


    One would have to read his bio to find that. But with old school BOXING, KO & RING magazine, they're snapshots into a particular time frame.

    Internet..it gets pushed out the way and goes from
    search 1-10

    to search 300-310
    Who wants to flip through that many tabs to see what's there?
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    RING MAGAZINE RATINGS 1992- who could today's MW beat on this list?
    Julian Jackson 44-1
    James Toney 31-0-2
    Mike McCallum 43-1-1
    S. Kalambay 53-5-1
    Roy Jones Jr 17-0
    Reggie Johnson 31-2-1
    Lamar Parks 21-0
    G McCellan 25-2
    B. Hopkins 18-1
    Collins 21-2
     
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  5. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Kevin Kelley featured in the October 1992 edition of RING Magazine.

    Headlines:
    Is Meldrick Taylor Shot?
    Highlighting Sharmbay Mitchell

    Columns on the outside lives of fighters, like Bert Cooper mentioned after his slugfest with Moorer was arrested for cocaine.

    Marlon Starling charged carrying weapon, 3rd degree criminal mischief...whatever that means.

    fighters that never rose to the level, there's a great photo of the Weaver Triplets. Didnt know there were 3 Weavers, same age!!

    The baddest Jr. Featherweight? Welcome Ncita 31-0

    AN article complains about amateur boxing, using Cus & Tyson as an example. In other words, different era same complaints.

    Great Trivia- Did anyone know Howard Davis beat Aaron Pryor for the final spot on the U.S. Team?
     
  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with the differences but to me the primary difference is before the internet the magazine contained the information which required those interested to READ THAT magazine so most of our baseline information was the same. The internet allows for opposing views, flat out lies or distorted views to be placed on it and unless the reader knows the difference or has the pre-requisite knowledge going into the weblink he will not know any different giving birth to the internet experts going off bad information. When I was a kid I watched the fights read the magazine articles or went to the library to read biographies of fighters to better understand the story behind the fighters.

    Another bonus of the internet is the ability to watch the fighters fights if available which is unprecedented to the older generations....we can rewatch the great fights and study the great fighters skill and can now debate the old timers accounts or the articles from our own observations....the benefit of endless study of an available fight over and over is an advantage the old writers never had.
     
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    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Okay, gotta watch myself in a debate with ya... Spot on G!
     
  8. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    True.
    Wasn't until the internet that I saw Hagler vs Briscoe. Sanchez vs Gomez to name a few...
     
  9. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Any difference between 1982 and 2018?

    According to these articles, same complaints, different decade:

    LHW rankings are an embarrassment.
    After stating Mustafa, Saad, Spinks & Braxton.....they said the other 6 to top 20 LHWs aint worth a darn!

    Letter to the WBC & WBA: " Give us a division with legitimate contenders and we'll consider ranking them" (for those who poo-poo on today's rankings.

    Ring attempts to hold summit conference to merge WBC, WBA, IBF.
    Even asked Congress to approve a bill that has same medical regulations in all states, same rules. (
    Gotta look this up and see how it failed)
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The internet has much more cream but way more ****
     
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    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kalan??:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::shakehead: not here....please not here
     
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  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Are you saying I cant find a specific thing on the net opposed to a magazine that won't have the detailed information I actually will find on the net more than not ?

    Someone who writes in a magazine doesn't automatically mean they know more, it means they have had access to go to e ents or getting paid to do research.


    You are literally doing the same with what's at your finger tips....the info you have access to now will give you more accurate information BC you have u limited sources to look up.


    You learn more from actual video BC you then have visual evidence, that's what the net provides that magazine's bias writers at times provide.

    Of course books are always good to have for extra insight, like boxing history, technique s..etc.....I have old martial arts mags with interviews for instance you probably won't find on the net..boxing mags too you probably have lost or rare stuff...but there's no comparison, the net is a far better source.
     
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    I don't see the distinction, why does there have to be two camps? I take advantage of anything written that is pertinent to my interest and any footage that I can find.
    The problem, with old fights is we often only have edited highlights to form our opinions, the back up of ringside reports from whichever boxing writers an individual fan respects are a valuable back up resource ,imo.
     
  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    You have to be a lot more selective with the Internet. Information is easy to come by, but accurate knowledge is harder to acquire. I see the benefit of both but I'm more wary of information acquired from the Internet as anyone can publish their point of view masquerading as fact, whereas in the pre-Internet days to get your point of view or actual knowledge published, there was a significant barrier to entry which meant that people tended to know what they were talking about when it appeared in print. Now the information you get online is like the letter pages at the end of the boxing magazines, except there is no expert to validate or disprove those opinions.
     
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    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am probably biased, but I feel like the old school boxing magazines had better overall quality of writing than the internet boxing sites. Now, it is true that some of the same writers have worked both mediums. I think there were fewer job openings in the field pre internet so the quality of writers was higher.

    Steve Farhood was an English major who got into Sports Journalism. I feel like reading his stuff voraciously from age 15 on helped me in my writing.

    My dad used to haze me for reading boxing mags. He thought it was junk reading, but I showed him some of Farhood's work and he acknowledged it was quality writing. I even learned some vocabulary words from reading boxing mags that I had not learned in school.

    There was a writer for the Ring in the '80s who was extremely articulate, as well.

    In analyzing the too laid back nature of James Tillis he said "Sometimes I wish I took time to smell the flowers, sometimes I'm glad I don't." His name was something Herbert Goldman, I think.
     
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