No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mike Tyson stands no more of a chance at beating today's super heavyweights than Povetkin or Haye do. The same is the case with Evander Holyfield.
     
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  2. SuperPiccolo

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    Also Luis Ortiz is actually 6'3 not 6'4 as listed. Anthony Joshua got knocked out by a 6'0 tall guy as a amatuer. Deontay Wilder was knocked out by a 6'0 tall guy as a amateur. Tyson Fury was almost knocked out a the light punching 6'3 190 pound cruiserweight Steve Cunningham. Wlad was knocked down 3 times and almost lost to the 6'2 Sam Peter. The 6'2 David Haye rocked and toyed with the 6'6 Deontay Wilder in sparring. The 6'5 Tony Thompson lost to the 6'1 Carlos Takam. Corrie Sanders a 6'3 -6'4 knocked out Wladimir Klitschko in 4 minutes.
    6'1 Chris Byrd made the 6'7 Vitali Klistchko quit.

    Yeah I think maybe you should just quit this boxing forum and just quit watching boxing. You are so far off in your opinion that it is laughable.
     
  3. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And since they're below 6'4" they stand a 10% chance of winning right?
     
  4. SuperPiccolo

    SuperPiccolo Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Tyson Fury has been one of the best heavyweights? Yeah beating a timid 40 year old Wlad in the most boring heavyweight fight in title history makes you great.

    Deontay Wilder is great because of what? Beating a overweight 6'3 PED using Ortiz?

    AJ beat who? A washed up 41 year old Wlad in a fight he almost got knocked out in?

    Who did Vitali beat? Nobody.

    Most top American guys don't even choose boxing anymore. Which is why the heavyweight division is the worst division in boxing. The point is dumb dumb each of the guys you named were either knocked out or loss badly to guys who were 6'3 or under.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

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    Yes but his point is against a tall fighter that uses his attributes,it took Wlad those two losses before Emanuel changed that.
     
  6. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Learn about boxing. Styles make fights.

    Joshua looked like he was about to cry when he got hit to the body. Tyson would easily get inside and stay inside and is strong enough and has a low enough center of gravity to beat the hell out of Joshua.

    Joshua is not experienced enough to clinch, so it would be easy for Tyson to knock him out.

    You're out of you mind.

    Tyson vs Wilder would be interesting. Wilder is the only guy that is a standout right now in the heavyweight division.

    Ortiz is good too. These other guys....you don't know **** about boxing.

    We'll leave it at that.
     
  7. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad would is a better boxer than Joshua, but that Wilder right hand WOULD find its target and Wlad's no chin would shatter.

    Wlad could illegally clinch small guys in his hometown, but he has no answer for a skinny long guy with power like Wilder.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can’t argue with this but still in percentage terms it probably does add up to ten percent.
     
  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amateur performances don't matter. It only matters when the boxers reach their best level.

    You're giving rare examples! Why didn't those boxers that are small heavyweights shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in height who beat Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder end up becoming better / greater professional heavyweights than them, since 2000?

    Wow! They got dropped once upon a time or lost once upon a time or stopped once upon a time. So what? What's that supposed to prove?
     
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure you’re point as Wilder is a giant.
     
  11. SuperPiccolo

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    Right the point is he lost to short fighters. He also didn't change for the better. He just fought inferior fighters and ran from them. If being really tall is helpful in boxing as I said then why didn't tall guys like Michael Grant and Lance Whitaker become great? Why isn't the 6'10 Julius Long a champion? Why didn't the 6'10 Mike White become champion? Because there is no height glass in boxing. There is a weight class though, so add more height will not make you a better fighter.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

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    It proves your 10% chance is all
     
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  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes! I never claimed a heavyweight of a particular height stands no chance at winning against a taller opponent. Rather, a heavyweight that is 6 foot 4 or taller that is also skilled (particularly with a good jab) and very powerful, will possess 90% chance at beating all smaller and shorter heavyweights and are only susceptible to the rare upset.
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    If he's spot on , how was Povetkin able to deal with Mariuz Wach like he was nothing while having far more trouble with the short Carlos Tatum?
     
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, mainly with a puncher's chance or from anomalies (such as injuries or other anomalous events occurring).