No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

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  1. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    You have to understand that the OP considers Vlad the goat. When you mention that Vlad was knocked out 4 times and lost once via decision and only avenged one loss he literally disregards that. Literally. His losses do not count against him because he was either young or old, or that guys like Ali and Foreman lost too. But because he outlasted his conquerors in his career he is therefore the goat.
     
  2. Luis Fernando

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    Yes, Povetkin is better than Mike Tyson. Hence why he never lost to bums like Danny Williams and journeymen like Kevin McBride or Buster Douglas. Age excuse doesn't work because Povetkin is 39 this year.

    Takam and Haye are on the level of Holyfield.
     
  3. SuperPiccolo

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    Lol probably but he also keeps mentioning Tyson Fury as being great or even good. But I am assuming he does that because Fury beat Wlad and like you said he thinks Wlad is the greatest. Then he mentions Wilder and AJ like either of them have proven something in their careers.

    But real fans who understand boxing can figure out that once you reach a certain height and weight it wont't help you anymore. Again I am not talking about some 6'0 170 pound Gene Tunny, 6'0 180 pound Dempsey, or 5'10 180 pound Marciano. I mean modern fighters with modern technique and skill. The best heavyweights in the modern era have always been around 6'2 and 6'6. The fact that this kid isn't smart enough to realize this is funny but annoying. If he thinks because one guy is 6'3/6/4 he can't beat a guy is 6'5/6'6 shows he really needs to stop watcing boxing.
     
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    Delete your account.
     
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  5. SuperPiccolo

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    Apparently.
     
  6. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    The only other thing that makes sense is that he’s trolling. Sometimes it’s hard to tell.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

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    Right! So since you want to dismiss Wladimir Klitschko from being the GOAT because he lost and was stopped in his career.

    Let's take Deontay Wilder. Since obviously, unbeaten record + UN-KO'ed record is what seemingly matters so much to you.

    Deontay Wilder is undefeated and is greater than any heavyweight pre-2000. What are you going to say about that? Let's hear your justifications as to why Deontay Wilder isn't the GOAT. LMFAO!
     
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  8. Luis Fernando

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    So didn't Mike Tyson lose to bums / journeymen like Danny Williams, Kevin McBride and Buster Douglas or am I making that up?

    Why hasn't Povetkin lost to bums / journeymen like that yet? Same with Holyfield? Why has he lost to former middleweight James Toney and John Ruiz and other journeymen if he was so good?
     
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    Povetkin also had more problems with the 6'3 Larry Donald who was past his prime, the 6'0 Friday Ahunanya, 6'2 cruiserweight Marco Huck yet had no problem as you said with the 6'8 Maruiz Wach. You know why? Because guy who made this thread isn't spot on with anything.
     
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  10. Ph33rknot

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    how tall was forman
     
  11. Luis Fernando

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    It's been nearly 20 years now and there has yet still to come a number one dominant heavyweight shorter than 6 foot 4 inches. So that's why it's about time we accept that maybe short heavyweights below 6 foot 4 inches are irrelevant in the heavyweight division from now and onward. More people exist today than they did during Joe Louis's time. Thus, with so many people participating in boxing, we would've had a short number one dominant heavyweight already by now if they were feasible.
     
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  12. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Ok bud, I just saw your post stating that Povetkin and Takam are greater than Mike Tyson and that settled it for me with the fact that you’re trolling. Regarding Vlad, he really has had a legit HOF career - albeit with some unavenged humiliations - but I can see how a young fan using Wikipedia might believe that Vlad is the greatest. But you’ve jumped the shark now and exposed yourself; if you are as truly stupid as you come across on this thread you wouldn’t be able to turn on a computer without electrocuting yourself. You’re spelling, grammar and syntax are too acceptable to pass yourself off as an escaped village idiot so that leaves trolling, crying out for attention and baiting as your only option left.
     
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  13. Luis Fernando

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    Povetkin is definitely better than Mike Tyson. Takam, maybe not but not too far behind.

    If Mike Tyson was really better than Povetkin. Why on Earth has he lost to bums like Danny Williams and journeymen like Buster Douglas and Kevin McBride and why hasn't Povetkin lost to such low caliber opponents?

    I'm an idiot but it's you who needs to use profanity because of what? Because of Lacking the ability to come up with valid and sound counter arguments? I thought so!

    Wladimir Klitschko so far is statistically the heavyweight GOAT and Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder may soon go on to surpass him. Nothing you can do can change this FACT because this is a fact, backed by statistics.

    Keep living in nostalgia land!
     
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  14. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    it’s obvious that this life has dealt you many cruel blows and I’m genuinely sorry for that, but that doesn’t make what you’re doing ok. You need to rise above this. I don’t doubt that once you find a nice young lady your attitude will improve. Internet trolling will lose its appeal - it’s part of the healing process. But until then go in peace, my child, and good luck to you on your journey.
     
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    Foreman was 6'3/6'3 1/2 so basically Luis Ortiz size but in much better shape