No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ike Ibeabuchi is an unproven heavyweight. He's claim to fame is getting brain damaged by another midget in David Tua and barely beating Chris Byrd with a questionable stoppage.

    But somehow he destroys Deontay Wilder, a genuine knockout artist who has KO'ed every opponent he has faced and actually puts his opponents to sleep most of the time, unlike the relative feather fisted weak punching Ike Ibeabuchi?
     
  2. The Akbar One

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    Unproven? He beat the best looking version of Tua that we've seen. Tua was an absolute wrecking machine back then in that time frame, in shape, good headmovement, punch output etc. He beat Chris Turd's arse with a two week camp and five rounds of sparring. He was in horrible shape for that fight, but still adapted and got the stoppage. Turd got hit so hard he didn't even realize he was in a fight, chit chatting with the ref while bombs were coming at him. Who said Ibeabuchi was brain damaged? He was known to be crazy when he first came from Nigeria. Two different things.

    Ike would beat the **** out of Wilder. Wilder getting dropped by bums, wobbled by journeymen, and almost KO'd by old men. Ike would have knocked Wilder clean out.
     
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  3. SuperPiccolo

    SuperPiccolo Member banned Full Member

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    Lol there were 6'3 fighters before Foreman there were bigger guys in the heavyweight division when Foreman came long back then. Why would a 6'3 to 6'6 fighter in the 70's who weighed 230 plus pound before fighting at cruiserweight today? The moderator of this forum need to ban people for making stupid comments or just trolling the forum.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Barely beat Byrd?? Ike didn't lose a round after the first and got him out of there in the 5th. Byrd didn't know what was going on at the time of the stoppage.
     
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  5. The Akbar One

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    Byrd drooling while having a conversation with the ref lol. Larry Merchant was really being an arse towards Byrd in that fight. His Byrd hating was hilarious.
     
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  6. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro i had a pretty good laugh at that myself.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yup, and that's far cry from what a real super heavyweight of today's era can do like Deontay Wilder. Not very impressive!
     
  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    David Tua would be an absolute nobody in today's era. There is a reason why boxers shorter than 6 foot 0 inches like David Tua don't exist at the top level of the heavyweight division today. Because they have become irrelevant and outdated with all the modern super heavyweights around like Fury, Joshua and Wilder.

    Luis Ortiz >>> Ike Ibeabuchi in terms of punching power and Ortiz landed everything but the kitchen sink on Wilder and still couldn't even drop him, never mind KO him. Wilder's chin is unreal and pretty much granite!

    Ike Ibeabuchi failed to stop 5 opponents, unlike Wilder who has stopped every opponent he's faced so far. And Wilder is FAR FAR FAR superior to those 5 opponents Ike Ibeabuchi failed to stop. Therefore, he ain't likely to be much of a nuisance to Wilder. In fact, I'm not even sure if Ibeabuchi could even hurt someone as tough as Wilder when he failed against 5 inferior boxers.

    Wilder 100% KO rate against every opponent he's faced >>> Ike Ibeabuchi's KO rate.
     
  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Corrie Sanders fought Wlad one time and knocked him out one time. So Corrie Sanders had a 100 percent chance of knocking out Wlad. Ross Purrity fought Wlad one time and knocked out Wlad one time. So he had a 100 percent chance of beating Wlad. Lamon Brewster fought Wlad 2 times and won one time. Which means he had a 50 percent chance of beating Wlad.[/QUOTE]
    Lol did you really just post this?
    Clearly you don’t understand the original post.
     
  11. Angler Andrew

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    I’ve always said about Wilder that for all his technical frailties his athleticism and belief he’ll get the KO no matter how late wins him fights.
    That he always gets out boxed for most of the fight seems irrelevant in the end,you gotta admire how tenacious the guy is.
     
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  12. boxinggenuis

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    Lol. Wilder said this years ago. That no one under 6'5 could ever beat him. Like eveything Wilder say he was ripped for it. And while I don't think Wilder, Joshua, Wlad or Lewis, Fury could beat EVERY fighter under 6'5 at least not in every fight if just for the fact anybody can get caught and knocked out. I did agree with Wilder general point, which is the same point the OP made. Essentially in boxing any good big man will always beat any good small man. It's why we have weight divisions in boxing in the first place. And having a huge reach advantage is almost impossible to overcome if the guy with the reach advantage has any ability at all. Just keep the shorter guy on the outside. Obviously it's not that simple and it takes some skill to do that. But it's a HUGE advantage for a tall fighter.

    The Wlad/Haye fight proved that perfectly. Haye had some advantage against Wlad. Didn't matter, with his long reach advantage Wlad was able to keep him on the outside. If they would of been the same height Haye almost certainly would of won the fight.

    Since guys like Lewis, Wlad, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, etc. I haven't really seen a shorter guy show that he was able to handle a skilled much taller guy.

    That's probably one of the things that hurt Wlad in his fight with Fury. He was always used to being the taller guy now all of sudden he was the shorter guy. That had to take some adjustment to get used to.
     
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  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield or Louis would be undisputed champ in this era.
     
  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield would be another Bryant Jennings or Carlos Takam in this era. Louis may be be atop 10 heavyweight but that's it!
     
  15. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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