Which rematch would be the most compelling for Anthony Joshua?

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Which rematch would be the most compelling for Anthony Joshua, as of this very moment?

Poll closed Jul 11, 2018.
  1. Parker II

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  2. Takam II

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  3. Klitschko II

    44.2%
  4. Breazeale II

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  5. Martin II

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  6. Whyte II

    30.2%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yes, there is plenty on the road ahead for him looking forward instead of backward: mandatory defense vs. division bogeyman Alexander Povetkin, unification with Deontay Wilder, and freshfaced challenges from the likes of Jarrell Miller, Oscar Rivas or Kubrat Pulev (should he get past Breazeale in their eliminator), or any of the recent top challengers who came up short against his then-peers: Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr. or Luis Ortiz. Should none of those materialize, however, due to all the usual complications: boxing politics, failed negotiations, incompatible schedules, and the like - would not a rehash be preferable to dipping into the bottom of the barrel to waste a title defense on any yo-yo populating the HW division that isn't either named above in this paragraph, or below?

    Here are the half dozen options, comprising all the currently or recently world ranked opponents Joshua has fought - and nearly the full balance of his workload in the last 2½ years (sans that fat useless bum Molina, against whom a rematch would be a ridiculously pointless exercise). They are listed in reverse chronological order that he fought them:

    1. Joseph Parker II (Pros: they just fought on close terms in an important unification, to a draw on my scorecard. Lots of controversy about the wideness of the official cards if not the result, although some did have Parker winning. Even those scoring it for Joshua remarked they were surprised by Parker's skill and had expected him to be knocked out. First man to bring Joshua the distance. Cons: many - not I, but many - claimed it was "boring". They very likely would go another twelve, with more scorecard disagreement, lessening instead of enhancing clarity as to whom the better man was proven to be... Parker also was treading a fine line between sportsmanlike humility and being down on himself in the aftermath, so would probably need a win first as both confidence-builder and to not be challenging off a loss...)
    2. Carlos Takam II (Pros: his performance on late notice was roundly praised, and Takam with a full camp perhaps could expand upon the discomfort he caused the champion in spots. Cons: has been pretty clearly beaten in his last two important fights, and stopped in two of his last three. Would be challenging off the loss...
    3. Wladimir Klitschko II (Pros: it was a FOTY candidate last time, probably the shoe-in for heavyweight, and the rematch was actually supposed to happen and in negotiation for much of last year. Cons: the aging former HW king has already walked away from the game and flatly refuted any speculation as to his retirement being temporary, outside his April Fool's Day prank)
    4. Dominic Breazeale II (Pros: assuming for the sake of argument in this scenario that he is coming off a victory over Kubrat Pulev, that will make for three fairly solid wins in a row...or at least two very good ones in Pulev and Ugonoh, plus a perfectly acceptable tuneup in Fatty Molina. Cons: he didn't win a round last time, and was beaten like a drum and stopped emphatically. He doesn't seem to have made any relevant improvements to his game since then, and never really hurt Joshua.
    5. Charles Martin II (Pros: the general feeling was that all the bright lights and the big moment "got to" Martin, so perhaps the spectacle witnessed didn't give the best representation of how a fight between them might go if he had his head on straight. He went through a bit of a mental breakdown and some legal trouble afterward, but seemed to get on the straight & narrow last year and returned with a hunger, scoring two early knockouts to start working his way up the rankings again. Cons: it was a goddamn embarrassing KO2. :lol: First hard right hand taken, he rode an entire 9-count on a glove, knee and foot like a damn tripod, got up, immediately ate one more right hand and then rode a 9½ count and managed to have the gall to look shocked the ref waved it off. :lol:)
    6. Dillian Whyte II (Pros: He is on a 7-0, 4 KO run since his loss to Joshua, with some good names in there and showing decent form. He also did have success in their previous encounter, and buzzed Joshua early...and still carries the psychological advantage of savaging him in the amateurs, which has now been once avenged but still just pulls Joshua level with him in the rivalry. Cons: Joshua had figured him all out by the midway point of their last match, and stopped him in pretty short order after that. Both are better than in 2015, but Joshua in greater measure, and styles will always favor him...)
     
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  2. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    1. Klitschko :- albeit his age Wlad imo still stands alone as the guy who could in theory beat AJ. Even now he'd still have a chance if slight.

    2. Parker :- gave AJ his "toughest" fight since Wlad, I thought it was alot closer than the official scores. Personally I don't think Parker does any better in a rematch.

    The rest of the fights where not even remotely competitive and nothing would change in a rematch.

    Outside of those I think only Fury, Wilder and Povetkin have a chance to beat AJ.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'd say:

    1st tier: Parker or Klitschko. In that order. Both are underdogs in a rematch but not by anywhere near as much as the others. Parker gets first preference because he earned a draw on my card while Klitschko got stopped.

    2nd tier: Whyte or Takam. In that order. Would be almost certain to be carbon-copies of their first times with Joshua, give or take. Maybe an improving Whyte or a full-camp Takam bags an extra round in the process, but most likely neither has the secret formula to beat AJ. Whyte preferable because he's on a lengthy win streak and his resume beats Takam's.

    Bottom tier: Breazeale or Martin. In that order. These are the deep-sigh, "Yeah, okay, I suppose this is better than scraping the bottom of the barrel if fights against Wilder/Povetkin/T. Fury/Miller/Rivas/Pulev/H. Fury/Ruiz/Ortiz can't be made right now, for whatever reason..." This is the foul-tasting medicine you force down your throat, because a redundant session of dominating and knocking out Breazeale or Martin is probably better for the heavyweight division and better for Joshua himself than having the champ with three belts just sit on the shelf for an extended period. Breazeale is preferable because he lasted thrice as long as Martin and didn't fold at the first power shot; on the contrary he carried himself as far as he did on sheer chin.
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Klitschko had the beating of him but threw the win away by being too cautious.... So naturally that fight easily although father time could have well caught up to Wlad even more so since then. The Parker fight obviously comes at II but probably won't happen unless Parker really forces the matter through merit and/or AJ is out of options in the future.
     
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  5. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    In terms of it actually happening probably Whyte, they still talk about it happening and it would generate a lot of money still in the U.K.

    WK isn't coming back so that's out of the window.

    Parker would probably need a win or 2 after this weekend to get back in the right frame of mind in my opinion, so maybe down the line they could definitely have a rematch.

    Not really interested in the others except maybe Takam with a full camp could be interesting.
     
  6. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    Parker, simply because I don't think any of the other fights will be competitive. Hopefully though, next time, without the ice cold bucket of water thrown on them anytime the fight threatens to turn into... well... a fight.
     
  7. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He doesn't need a rematch at this point.
     
  8. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Mentioning Martin is ****ing insane
     
  9. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    1. Klitschko

    Fight was close, Klitschko was one punch from winning

    2. Whyte

    Whyte actually hurt AJ, theres beef there, and whyte has a good run of Chisora, Helenius, Browne

    The rest me no care

    Parker went 12 in a boring fight but never looked like winning, and the other guys are not interesting at all
     
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  10. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    I say Parker or Whyte. I’d love to see Klitchsko but I don’t think it’s realistic so I’ll ignore it. Parker is the obvious choice in my opinion, as he’s a former world champion, and there was a great deal of scorecard controversy as you’ve stated. I was honestly wondering yesterday if the WBO would/has the power to order a rematch due to the wideness of the cards.

    I say Whyte secondly because they seem to have a bit of a rivalry, and I think the build up would be the best Joshua’s had in a while. While I don’t think Whyte would have a great chance in the rematch, I think the fact that he’s rocked AJ twice before would have the British public buzzing with the possibility that Whyte knocks AJ out.
     
  11. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    It’s weird, I actually don’t think there’s tiers to this. There’s a legitimate ranking, if we exclude Wlad, with legitimate reasons for each ranking

    1. Parker - took AJ 12 rounds, many people thought the scorecards were ludicrous.
    2. Whyte - big domestic fight, has rocked AJ before, there’s legitimate beef.
    3. Takam - did better than expected on short notice, controversial stoppage but clearly less marketable than the first two
    4. Breazeale - could be a mandatory, but the first wasn’t competitive at all and it’s also really not marketable
    5. Martin - no one wants to see this lol
     
  12. BCS8

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    Klitschko would be the toughest. Wlad had him out, AJ was gassed for 4 rounds and and he farted around pecking at him. He should have unloaded, AJ's tank was on empty. But then again, Wlad at 42/3 is probably going to be worse than ever.

    Bring on POVETKIN!
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    None to be honest! Would love to have seen a Vitali Klitschko vs Anthony Joshua match up!
     
  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I love watching Povetkin but what are you going to say after he gets totally demolished by Joshua inside 4 rounds?

    Be careful what you wish for is all I've got to say!
     
  15. BCS8

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    Takam didn't get "totally demolished" by Joshua. On the other hand, Povetkin certainly did "demolish" Takam.

    By the way, let's have a recap on how Povetkin was at a terrible disadvantage against Price? :)

    While I slightly favour Joshua over Povetkin, Sasha has the skills and firepower to win.