You do know Joshua has been consulting heavily with Wladamir Klitschko right?

Wlad haunting the division from beyond his retirement.

 

Who is Wlads best win?

 

Povetkin, Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Mercer, Brewster, Byrd, McCline, Thompson, Botha, Rahman, Peters, Brock, Chambers, Pulev.

That's 15 solid wins right there.

 

Some of those wins are worthless. Im now convinced you were not even following the division at the time.

You listed Brewster as a solid win , yet Brewster knocked him out. He avenged that loss yes , but when Brewster was half blind , half retired and held no ranking. Only one fight was prime vs prime , so Wlad beating the ghost of Brewster is hardly a solid win when he lost to him in his prime.
Lewis gets no credit for the MaCall rematch , but MaCall went on to have another have another 39 fights and picked up some decent wins against Henry Akinwande , Lance Whitaker , Fres Oquendo.
Brewster went onto to get beaten badly by Gbenga Oloukun and Robert Helenius before retiring.
Lewis second win over MaCall he gets zero credit for >> Brewster II

lol@ Rahman.
He took the fight on two weeks notice and was so washed up and out of shape he kept his clothes on during the weigh-in. A nothing win
Mercer was shot to pieces and unranked.

The only solid win on that list are Haye , Chaggy , Iggy , Povetkin and Pulev.

Even though Chaggy was a good win at the time , he still had failed a medical exam to rematch Valeuv and took the fight with Wlad on short notice and that showed as he had no gameplan at all.

The division was in a state. Joshua will likely never defend against old washed up contenders from the previous era like Wlad was.
The majority of contenders from this era are all fresh and in their primes. Povetkin may be 38 , but he's still a hell of a lot better than Chris Byrd was in 2006 when Wlad beat him to start his reign.

I fully expect you to come back and call me every name under the sun for pointing this out , but try to surprise yourself for once.

 

I thought you had a higher opinion of Vitali? Vitali had better reflexes, better control of distance, better stamina, volume and variety in punch output, and of course better chin and size. Wlad was much more powerful, smoother, better movement, but on the balance I think Vit was the better athlete

 

You have no authority when it comes to Klitschko in any form as you have no neutrality at all.

The contenders of today are green and all the above fighters bar Rahman at the time would be favoured over the likes of Whyte, Miller, Breazeale, Kownacki, H.Fury, Ruiz jr who non of the above have any form of standout victory.

Tell me what stand out wins they have or what makes them such good fighters as to the ones that I pointed out.

 

Hes needing to man up and get out of retirement. Getting them titles back looks achievable after watching that on Saturday night. Wasn't all that far away from beating Joshua the first time round. Your a long time retired

 

Agreed. Those are all excellent wins.

 

In mine Butterbean is the greatest fighter of all time. Your opinion is wrong, I told you great fighters don't get knocked out by journeyman level fighters. I guess your going to avoid that right? If you think Hasim Rahman, Derrick Jefferson, and Ray Austin were great fighters then good for you. But you know the people who actually watch boxing and understand what is going on know better. Wlad never faced a legit top level guy. He fought in a era so boring that it turned most people away from the heavyweight division.

If Corrie Sanders, Ross Purrity, Lamon Brewster could knock out Wlad but a prime Foreman or even a older one up to a point, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Ali and others wouldn't have beat Wlad then maybe you should give up the sport. I know it can be difficult to understand it is too much for you. Maybe you should just play cards or if you still want to follow sports then choose a easier one to understand. I gave you facts you give me your personal opinion.

 

Im not arguing my personal opinion , thats why fanboys such as yourself get so salty since you can't disprove anything i post. I am simply calling it as it was. If anything i said there was a non-truth you should have been able to debunk it and made me look like a fool , but you didn't/couldn't since its all true.

No , those guys are not Green... Nathan Gorman is Green , Dan Doubis is green.. Those guys are all top ranked contenders in the prime of their careers. There ain't no washed up old men getting passed around like there was in the K-era

Denis Boystov who was a highly tipped prospect during K2 era couldn't beat a patsy they rolled out for him as an easy win to earn his mandatory against Wlad. It was the stool pigeon that ended up going on to fight Wlad. It was that bad back then. It would be like Dave Allen getting a shot at Joshua today.
Now consider that Leapai lost every round soon after to Scott and Scott is not good enough to compete with the contenders of today.

 

Lol Corrie Sanders knocked out Wlad when Wlad have over 40 fights so try again. If these knock outs were in his first few fights you still wouldn't consider Wlad a tall time great if you knew boxing. Great fighters may lose decisions early on in their careers. But great fighters don't get laid out on their butts back 3rd tier fighters. All time great fighters beat all time great fighters. Wlad has never fought anybody worth mentioned. Alexander Povetkin? A PED cheat who should of lost to Marco Huck a cruiserweight? That is probably Wlad's best win. Well you can add blown up light heavyweight Chris Byrd. Well Ike Ibeabuchi destroyed Byrd and Wlad had to go 12 their first fight and then finally stop him in their second when Byrd was past his peak. Ruslan Chagaev, Sam Peter, Jean Marc Mormeck a cruiserweight, Sultan Ibrigamov, Ray Austin, Derrick Jefferson, Tony Thompson, Maruisz Wach, Fransico Pianeta, Alex Leapai, Kubrat Pulev,Bryant Jennings, Eddie Chambers, and Calvin Brock.

None of those guys I named are even top 500 heavyweights of all time. Those are the guys Wlad beat in his 10 years of having the title. Joke fighters. Honestly do you think Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Ali, in shape Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, or any other top heavyweight wouldn't have beat these guys as well? No all time great in this list. So the people Wlad beat weren't great. Some were good but none were great combined with the fact Wlad was knocked out 3 times by lesser fighters, knocked down various other times but lesser fighters means he wasn't a all time great.

 

Again there is no such thing is super heavies and the only people who use the term are casual fans like you. Wlad hooked up with Steward and ran like a girl for 10 years fighting bums. Wlad was a speciman? Of what? He wasn't the first 6'5 guy who boxed and he won't be the last. Wlad power was only good enough to knocked out bums and even then some bums couldn't even hurt. Ask Everett Martin about that how he went 2 fights against Wlad and never was hurt or knocked down.

 

Lol I still think the last version of him was better,I certainly had him up on the cards.
Thing is after that fight everyone expects the same each time and it’s just not possible.

Actually I have Lennox as the greatest but it’s a toss up really between the two.

 

Back in my day sonny I had to walk 50miles though snow 20 feet deep with no shoes...

 

Back in my day I used to have sex with your mom while your daddy watched. Now you put up pictures of grown males without their shirts on because they turn you on. Too each their own.