Who the hell were Wilders first 21 opponents?!!

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  1. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Have a look at the list and then look at AJ`s first 21 opponents. lol
     
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    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    what list ?
    ive seen the fights that were recorded on phones and ipads on you tube
    small hall shows

    clearly poor opponents

    but wilder showed me he is legit with his win over ortiz
     
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    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Joshua didn't beat Dustin Nichols though...
     
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    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Substitute teachers.
     
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    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    That was his 34th opponent.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True, his early opposition, hell even most of his title defences were woefully poor, but the Ortiz win legitimizes his reign and proves he's a genuine world class heavyweight and not just a pretender.

    It's clearly taken him far longer to develop in comparison to Joshua, Wilder is a late bloomer, I couldn't see Wilder beating Ortiz during his first 21 fights. But I guess that's due to the woeful under funding of the amateur system in the US. Joshua as a top amateur had access at a far earlier stage to a far more professional set up.
     
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    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    why stop at first 21 LOOOl who was his first 33 opponents?

    even now who has he fought other then Ortiz after 41 fights LOOOL
     
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    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oi, what do you mean "who the hell are.."

    I'm warning you, don't insult the regulars at my local pub.
     
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    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Joshua 21: Skelton, Airich, Bakhtov, Zumbano Love, Kevin Johnson, Cornish, Whyte, Martin, Breazeale, Molina, Wlad Klitschko, Takam, Parker

    Wilder 21: Cobb, Nichols, Sconiers, Damon Reed, Cota

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

    Wilder only fought 11 opponents who had a positive fight record (first 21)

    AJ is 19/21.

    Wilder is apparently something like 14-0 or so. 40-0 is the biggest fluke ever.
     
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    His eleventh fight was Dustin Nichols compared to Jason Gavern for Joshua. The very same Jason Gavern that gave Wilder his titleshot at Bermane Stiverne...
     
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    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Very disrespectful thread to Dustin Nichols. A quote from Wilder's trainer after the Nichols fight:

    “I thought once he settled down and used his jab he was really, really good,” Deas said. “I’d prefer he be more disciplined and not leave himself open to getting hit like that. As a trainer, I feel every punch. It’s good for him to get hit a little bit, but against a guy like “Worm” you don’t like him getting hit that much. All it takes is a once-in-a-million punch, and Worm has the power to deliver that.“
     
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    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Its not the 1st 21 that i shake my head at, thats quite normal for most fighters, its from 25 to about 35 where it didnt really get any better. Not to mention he didnt get much better himself, learned very little.
     
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    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    wilder is still basic and flawed / but he has genuine power/height/leverage and speed

    i do not think he is any better now than he was then / team wilder have been very cautious with him

    IMO i think wilder forced haymon/finkel to confirm an ortiz fight
    they have not backed wilder at all with any money

    they were easily outbid by team povetkin in a purse bid scenario

    they bid £3.5 million combined for that fight despite the fact that it meant there longtime investment would have to go to russia to defend

    it is wilder promoting himself with finkel and haymon along for the ride / if i was wilder being self employed i would have paid them off long ago and self promoted ala david haye.
     
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    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Facing the worm and hard roc so early in his career!
    Big respect to Wilder.
     
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    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah but wilder was developing and learning his craft, he wasn't ready yet.