Wilder willing to go to the UK, seems to be getting realistic in his demands

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    After lots of silly talk and bravado Deontay Wilder seems to be finally getting real when it comes to a Joshua fight saying his team are ready to talk and he's ready to dust off his passport and make the trip to the UK.

    Good for him. I'm not sure if his confidence is especially high due to defeating heavyweight boogeyman Ortiz or seeing a very human looking Joshua bore his way to a points win over a lacklustre Parker but Deontay seems like he's accepted he's the B-side draw wise and wants to genuinely be the man in the division. Let's get ready to ruummmmmble!

    Source: Sky

    http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...r-ready-for-anthony-joshua-showdown-in-the-uk
     
  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Wilder's team have played a blinder really. Didn't dance to the Matchroom tune by joining in with the circus on Saturday, and then took control of the story two day's later. Over to you AJ and Hearn...
     
  3. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Wilder came to reality that the peoples do not yet see him as great as he sees himself.

    Thank the lord.
     
  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't understand what's meant to be different now. Wilder's said the same stuff over and over again.

    Funny, when Hearn finally accepts one of Deontay's random diatribes as not incredibly far off base all of a sudden the same **** he's said since AJ made that comment about not being read until 2019 now makes sense and is sensible.

    ....but it ain't racism doe.
     
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I guess it depends on whether or not you think Wilder was fine with going to the UK all along. The split obviously isn't going to be 50/50 either but this softening of tone definitely looks good for the coming negotiations.

    I still find it very weird how Wilder wants nothing to do with Whyte - not fight wise, I think we all agree he takes Dillian's head off but as a person. He seems to be dead set against getting in any drama with the body snatcher which is odd. I thought he'd love all the WWE style nonsense before scoring a devastating KO win for a decent payday.
     
  6. Holler

    Holler What a cocky saucy ****** this one is Full Member

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    They're in control of nothing even now. If the Comms battle were a fight the referee would've already stopped it as a no contest. They missed out on a lot of free press and with the Ortiz match fresh in the memory a perfect chance to improve the positioning of their guy.

    A better and more proactive Comms/PR team would've gone to Cardiff and executed their own strategy anticipating and countering any Matchroom moves with their own narrative. They would've planned the week ensuring that Wilder was always ready with a newsworthy soundbite to keep him in the day to day coverage. Wilder deserves better advice and support than he's getting.
     
  7. Southpawswitch

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    Probably doesn't want to weaken his negotiation power or distract from a Joshua fight by even acknowledging Whyte's existence.
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He's been spouting off all sorts of **** for the past few months - about 'kings' not chasing other 'kings', the US being the home of boxing, even splits, people 'juicing brothas' etc. so hearing him make a totally sensible statement looking like he really wants to make the fight and will be sticking on Hearn to make it as he's going to be reasonable is great news IMO.

    He's coming to the UK and he's bringing that massive right hand with him.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    On the contrary, they are playing a power game with two control freaks....
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Taking 5m to decapitate a profile boosting loudmouth doesn't seem like weakening his position to me if the deal doesn't have any further options on it and if it did then he could easily say no and put Hearn on blast for trying that sheeit.
     
  11. Somachenko

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    I think it’s 100% a pride thing. He doesn’t want to be seen as not the master of his own path. Accepting the fight with Whyte makes it look like Eddie is running the show. It’s extra effort that Deontay doesn’t feel he should have to put forth. I’m not saying I totally agree but that’s how I’ve come to understand it.
     
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  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I think he knows he's KO-in-waiting, might as well be against AJ for all the belts than Whyte to lose his own. And then, of course, he might catch AJ and hit the jackpot. Also the AJ contract will be for two fights, I suspect, so two pay days are at risk. Add that all up and swerving Whyte makes more sense....
     
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  13. Holler

    Holler What a cocky saucy ****** this one is Full Member

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    I get the power dynamics angle, but that shouldn't have stopped them taking full advantage of the press coverage last week. Like I say, a good comms strategist would've put them on the front foot, especially as Wilder has genuine charisma if properly guided. As it is, their comms are a disaster area.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Taking crap money for Ortiz sort of blows that out of the water IMO. I don't think he's worried about anything Whyte does in the ring. Whyte is a thorough pest out of it and I think that's what is putting him off. It would definitely make me think about agreeing to fight him. He'd annoy the **** out of me and there's a good chance Deontay would sink to his puerile level.
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

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    Guess you have to weigh up risk/reward. They decided the Whyte fight is not worth the risk (however small that is) compared to the reward (massive and life-changing) of the AJ fight(s) for all the belts. Either way, we both pointing out his lack of confidence....